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HEARS A LINK TO THE NEW PAGE
http://www.overclock.net/intel-build...ml#post4086408




Motherboard:
Asus P5Q Pro Atx LGA775 P45 DDR2 2PCI-E16 Crossfire 3PCI-E1 2PCI SATA2 Sound Gblan Esata Motherboard
http://www.directcanada.com/products...nufacture=ASUS
$139.99

CPU:
Intel Core 2 Duo E8200 Dual Core Processor LGA775 2.66GHZ Wolfdale 1333FSB 6MB Retail
http://www.directcanada.com/products...ufacture=INTEL
$178.46

CPU Cooling:
Coolermaster GeminII Copper Aluminum 6 Heatpipe Cooler 2X120MM LGA775 Socket AM2 S939 S940 S754
http://www.directcanada.com/products...e=COOLERMASTER
$31.32

Other Cooling:
COOLERMASTER PTK-001 PREMIUM THERMAL COMPOUND
http://www.directcanada.com/products...e=COOLERMASTER
$10.07

Cooler Master Neon Blue LED 120MM Case Fan 3PIN 22DBA 1220RPM 42.734CFM 3PINS
http://www.directcanada.com/products...e=COOLERMASTER
$4.97

Memory:
G.SKILL F2-6400CL5D-4GBPQ PC2-6400 4GB 2X2GB DDR2-800 CL5-5-5-15 240PIN Dual Channel Memory Kit
http://www.directcanada.com/products...acture=G.SKILL
$91.80

Graphics:
HIS Radeon HD 4850 512MB GDDR3 PCI-E 2XDVI-I Video Card
http://www.directcanada.com/products...anufacture=HIS
$189.99

HIS Radeon HD 4850 512MB GDDR3 PCI-E 2XDVI-I Video Card
http://www.directcanada.com/products...anufacture=HIS
$189.99

TOTAL PRICE: $836.59


PSU: ???




Hey, going to upgrade soon over the summer, hopefully right after exams and going to start with about a $400 upgrade. I'm looking for the cheapest possible replacements to replace my old system, as it has a motherboard that doesn't like overclocking that well, and the parts are getting too old.

So, for about $400 dollars, I'm thinking of getting:

-----SYSTEM 1 UPGRADE----------------------------------------------------------------------
Asus P5Q-E Socket 775 Intel P45 + ICH10R Chipset Dual-Channel DDR2 1200/1066/800/667MHz Dual Gigabit LAN 8-channel High Definition Audio 2 x PCI Express 2.0 x16 Slots 8x SATA 3Gb/s
http://www.canadacomputers.com/index...815&cid=MB.157
$176.99

A-DATA DDR2 800 240pin 4GB Kit (2x2GB) Unbuffered-DIMM Non-ECC Memory (w/ Heatsink)
http://www.canadacomputers.com/index...id=RAM.346.307
$86.99

Intel Celeron Dual-Core E1200, Socket LGA775, EM64T, 1.6 GHz, 800 MHz FSB, 512KB L2 Cache, 65nm (Retail Box)
http://www.canadacomputers.com/index...049&cid=CPU.84
$45.99

w/ this system, will overclock the Celeron to about 3.4 GHz and it should run just fine. Seen reviews that it will run faster than a Core 2 Duo at stock around 2.4-2.66 and maybe around a Q6600 (only on games). Or, should I switch out the Celeron and get a E2180?

Intel Pentium Dual Core E2180 Socket LGA775, 2.0 GHz, 800 MHz FSB, 1MB L2 Cache, 65nm (Retail Box) (BX80557E2180)
http://www.canadacomputers.com/index...873&cid=CPU.84
$74.99

Cooler Master GeminII (RR-CCH-ANU2-GP) for Socket AM2/754/939/940/LGA775
http://www.canadacomputers.com/index...873&cid=FN.349
$33.99

Cooler Master 120mm Blue Neon Case Fan (TLF-S12-EB)
http://www.canadacomputers.com/index...681&cid=FN.505
$11.75

TOTAL PRICE: $355.71 or $384.71

w/ this system, I would have a 200 GB HDD, a 7600GS OC (600/900), 400 Watt PSU (have a 500 Watt Ultra somewhere that I could use too), Coolermaster case, 120 mm Blue LED Fan, 24in Acer P Screen, Logitech Keyboard and Mouse, Allsop mouse pad, and Sound Blaster X-Fi Sound card. That system there comes in under $400 but the video card is lacking. Sometime latter, maybe into mid-July, would get 1 HD4850 when the prices drop.
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OR

-----SYSTEM 2 UPGRADE----------------------------------------------------------------------
Asus P5Q-E Socket 775 Intel P45 + ICH10R Chipset Dual-Channel DDR2 1200/1066/800/667MHz Dual Gigabit LAN 8-channel High Definition Audio 2 x PCI Express 2.0 x16 Slots 8x SATA 3Gb/s
http://www.canadacomputers.com/index...815&cid=MB.157
$176.99

Intel Celeron Dual-Core E1200, Socket LGA775, EM64T, 1.6 GHz, 800 MHz FSB, 512KB L2 Cache, 65nm (Retail Box)
http://www.canadacomputers.com/index...049&cid=CPU.84
$45.99

Cooler Master GeminII (RR-CCH-ANU2-GP) for Socket AM2/754/939/940/LGA775
http://www.canadacomputers.com/index...873&cid=FN.349
$33.99

Cooler Master 120mm Blue Neon Case Fan (TLF-S12-EB)
http://www.canadacomputers.com/index...681&cid=FN.505
$11.75

A-Data DDR2 800 240pin 2GB Kit (2x1GB) Unbuffered-DIMM Non-ECC Memory (w/ Heatsink)
http://www.canadacomputers.com/index...id=RAM.346.307
$47.49

Sapphire ATI RADEON HD 4850 512MB GDDR3 Dual Dual-Link DVI HD Audio Shader Model 4.1 800 stream processor PCI-Express 2.0 Graphics Card
http://www.canadacomputers.com/index...id=999.243.272
$204.99

TOTAL PRICE: $512.20

A bit over, but would more likely be the better buy. Would contain the same parts as the other system.
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Anyways, what do you guys think?
Edited by Domino - 6/25/08 at 2:51pm
post #2 of 26
it all looks good but. I would get the g.skill 2x2 that is 85 dollars, would give link but posting on phone, think its ddr2 1000
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post #3 of 26
Don't get fooled, the Celeron will not match Core 2 Duo performance and even less Core 2 Quad performance in games. Celerons are really the extreme low end of Intel, they have such a small cache that it makes a difference, I would at least go with the e2180.
    
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Is your sig-rig what you currently have?

What are your current specs.
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post #5 of 26
use http://www.directcanada.com/
free shoping for orders > $300
no PST if you dont live in BC

get this ram
http://www.directcanada.com/products...acture=G.SKILL

get an E2160, or E2180
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post #6 of 26
get a 2180, the e1200's 512KB of cache is about 1/24 that of a current 45nm quad core, or 4%, with 2400% more cache, you will see a MAJOR performance improvement, get the e2180, it atleast has 1mb of cache. btw, the e1200 performs WORSE than the 4000+ (i know you intend to OC) the e2180 is a much better cpu, higher multi, more cache, and 400 more mhz out of the box for only $30 is worth it. i say get your second build, but with the e2180 and GSKILL 1000mhz 2x2GB ram. you wont be disapointed (or go with the 9800GTX+ 55nm GPU)
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post #7 of 26
Thread Starter 
My current specs are:
AMD 3800+ X2 @ 2.17 GHz (Socket 939)
EVGA SLI 580I Motherboard
256 MB PCI-E 7600 GS @ 600/900
400 Watt PSU
etc

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Based on these reviews? What is the Celeron DC 3.4?
http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/cpu...0_8.html#sect0

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Well, I might just upgrade with $800 instead of the around $400 like before. Would going to a cheap Core 2 would be the best bet for price performance ration after overclocking or would a E2180 be fast enough at 3.2 GHz? Then once summer is over, the system would be used again over Christmas and then next summer. Maybe a Core 2 would satisfy the system better in the future?

Thanks for the replies

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What about this system?
Cooling:
Cooler Master GeminII (RR-CCH-ANU2-GP) for Socket AM2/754/939/940/LGA775
http://www.canadacomputers.com/index...873&cid=FN.349
$33.99

Cooler Master 120mm Blue Neon Case Fan (TLF-S12-EB)
http://www.canadacomputers.com/index...681&cid=FN.505
$11.75

CPU and Motherboard:
Intel Pentium Dual Core E2180 Socket LGA775, 2.0 GHz, 800 MHz FSB, 1MB L2 Cache, 65nm (Retail Box) (BX80557E2180)
http://www.canadacomputers.com/index...873&cid=CPU.84
$74.99

Asus P5Q-E Socket 775 Intel P45 + ICH10R Chipset Dual-Channel DDR2 1200/1066/800/667MHz Dual Gigabit LAN 8-channel High Definition Audio 2 x PCI Express 2.0 x16 Slots 8x SATA 3Gb/s
http://www.canadacomputers.com/index...815&cid=MB.157
$176.99

Graphics:
Sapphire ATI RADEON HD 4850 512MB GDDR3 Dual Dual-Link DVI HD Audio Shader Model 4.1 800 stream processor PCI-Express 2.0 Graphics Card
http://www.canadacomputers.com/index...id=999.243.272
$204.99

Sapphire ATI RADEON HD 4850 512MB GDDR3 Dual Dual-Link DVI HD Audio Shader Model 4.1 800 stream processor PCI-Express 2.0 Graphics Card
http://www.canadacomputers.com/index...id=999.243.272
$204.99

Memory:
A-DATA DDR2 800 240pin 4GB Kit (2x2GB) Unbuffered-DIMM Non-ECC Memory (w/ Heatsink)
http://www.canadacomputers.com/index...id=RAM.346.307
$86.99

Total Price is just under 800.

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Can't seem to find that ram your talking about Vox
Hey Slick, thx for the site, going to make a system off there too
Edited by Domino - 6/22/08 at 1:49pm
post #8 of 26
Thread Starter 
Ok, here is a system from the Direct Canada site....

Motherboard:
Asus P5Q Pro Atx LGA775 P45 DDR2 2PCI-E16 Crossfire 3PCI-E1 2PCI SATA2 Sound Gblan Esata Motherboard
http://www.directcanada.com/products...nufacture=ASUS
$139.99

CPU:
Intel Pentium Dual Core E2180 Socket LGA775, 2.0 GHz, 800 MHz FSB, 1MB L2 Cache, 65nm (Retail Box) (BX80557E2180)
http://www.canadacomputers.com/index...873&cid=CPU.84
$74.99

CPU Cooling:
Coolermaster GeminII Copper Aluminum 6 Heatpipe Cooler 2X120MM LGA775 Socket AM2 S939 S940 S754
http://www.directcanada.com/products...e=COOLERMASTER
$31.32

Other Cooling:
COOLERMASTER PTK-001 PREMIUM THERMAL COMPOUND
http://www.directcanada.com/products...e=COOLERMASTER
$10.07

Cooler Master Neon Blue LED 120MM Case Fan 3PIN 22DBA 1220RPM 42.734CFM 3PINS
http://www.directcanada.com/products...e=COOLERMASTER
$4.97

Memory:
G.SKILL F2-6400CL5D-4GBPQ PC2-6400 4GB 2X2GB DDR2-800 CL5-5-5-15 240PIN Dual Channel Memory Kit
http://www.directcanada.com/products...acture=G.SKILL
$91.80

Graphics:
HIS Radeon HD 4850 512MB GDDR3 PCI-E 2XDVI-I Video Card
http://www.directcanada.com/products...anufacture=HIS
$189.99

HIS Radeon HD 4850 512MB GDDR3 PCI-E 2XDVI-I Video Card
http://www.directcanada.com/products...anufacture=HIS
$189.99

TOTAL PRICE: $733.12

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Are these HD4850s the same as this?
http://www.hisdigital.com/html/produ...d=388&view=yes

Cause I read somewhere that some sites said that the HD4850 has 420 stream processors and this card is relatively cheaper than what was expected :O

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Do you guys think an old Ultra 500 Watt PSU would run these 2 cards when specs suggest a 550 Watt? Should I just go with a 600+ Watt PSU for room for OC?

Any good PSU around 600+ Watt that would be around the 70 dollar mark and have those cables that plug in to save on space in the case?

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What's the story behind Direct Canada? They any good? The prices are cheap and they don't have specs for their products
Edited by Domino - 6/22/08 at 2:37pm
post #9 of 26
Thread Starter 
ok, going to switch out the E2180 and get:
Intel Core 2 Duo E6550 Socket LGA775, 2.33 GHz, 1333 MHz FSB, 4MB L2 Cache, 65nm (Retail Box) BX80557E6550)
http://canadacomputers.com/index.php...823&cid=CPU.84
$165.99

There, there is a good budget system and still in the $800 range. Thanks for the help guys. Any good PSU that would run this for around $75?
post #10 of 26
Thread Starter 
I'm only using windows XP, but I heard that someone of the forums here said that Vista is now outperforming games on XP. Is that true?

Anyways, would switching down to 3 or 2 GB of ram be better in the long run?
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