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Alright, I'm a king when it comes to software, but in the hardware section, I'm still rather much of a newb. So, I'd like to upgrade my computer, but I don't have much money, so I want to know: Wich component should I upgrade in order to get the biggest increase of performance? Here's my specs:

Nvidia 8500 GT
2,60 gigahertz AMD Athlon 64 X2 Dual Core
2048 Megabytes of RAM in two 1 GB "sticks"
MSI MS-7369 1.0 200 MHZ Motherboard

I'd also be happy if someone could tell me how to OC all of the above exept the G- card. If possible, I'd like to have software to OC so I can change profiles quickly with hotkeys.

Also: Is the SLI technology for the Nvidia cards good? If so, would I gain anything from buying another 8500 or is it better to buy a new one? Because the 8500's are pretty cheap now.

If you need more info, just tell me.
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/ Ken
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It depends what you would be doing with your PC. If you play games then i would upgrade the graphics card to maybe a 9600gt. SLI with a 8500gt is pointless. I think your AMD 5200+ is still a good CPU for general PC use
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Well, let's put it this way: what do you want to do with your PC? For gaming the answer is obvious (to me) the VID card needs to go. In 100$ you'll find some great vid cards like 9600GT, ATI's 3850 and 3870, maybe 8800GT 256MB, lots of choices. A second 8500GT would help you very little in SLI.

As for the software OC, you should wait to try the BIOS OC. Don't waist your time with that as you may end up with massive data corruption caused by unsuccessful soft OCs. It's like running on walking-sticks, it's just unnatural and you hurt yourself real bad if you fall. They may seem convenient, but no one in the right mind would advice you to toy with stuff like nTune.

P.S Welcome to the club. Fill the USER CP if you wanna stick around and fore some light weight OCing read the K8 OCing guide posted on this section.
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Sorry about not reading the stickies, I know that can be irritating. I intend to use my computer mainly for gaming, but I'd also like to emulate a PS2 on it, and it's running too slow for that. Thanks for the info about SLI, I'll consider buying a new Graphics card.

Dragosmp: Did I understand you correctly? You meant that software is bad to overclock with, and that I should overclock in the BIOS, right? If so, howcome? I don't always want to OC my computer, and OC'ing it in BIOS, having to reboot every time to do so is to me not worth while. So why is software OC'ing so bad? I'm just wondering, I don't mean to sound offencive or anything. Thanks for the help so far!

*Edit* I heard something about good drivers for the nVidia cards (something about forceware?)... What is forceware and what are the "best" drivers for the nVidia 8500 GT?
Edited by KenRayadon - 6/23/08 at 2:05pm
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Dragosmp: Did I understand you correctly? You meant that software is bad to overclock with, and that I should overclock in the BIOS, right? If so, howcome? I don't always want to OC my computer, and OC'ing it in BIOS, having to reboot every time to do so is to me not worth while. So why is software OC'ing so bad? I'm just wondering, I don't mean to sound offencive or anything. Thanks for the help so far!
Kenrayadon, like Drago said software overclocking can cause data corruption and sometimes even damage hardware components. Your better off manually making changes in the BIOS. You can easily test your memory for stability by using memtest (bootable utility). Running Windows with unstable memory can lead to a bad OS.

Here is a helpful overclocking guide that I'd recommend checking out when you have time:
http://www.overclock.net/amd-general...ocket-am2.html

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I heard something about good drivers for the nVidia cards (something about forceware?)... What is forceware and what are the "best" drivers for the nVidia 8500 GT?
As far as I know the Forceware drivers are the "standard" drivers that are used by nVidia video cards. I'm unfamiliar on what version offers more performance then others. Perhaps that is a question for a nvidia user to answer.

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Sorry about not reading the stickies, I know that can be irritating. I intend to use my computer mainly for gaming, but I'd also like to emulate a PS2 on it, and it's running too slow for that.
If you want to do PS2 emulation AND YOU OWN A PS2, a faster CPU will be a bigger benefit than a faster GPU to a certain point. If you get a 9600GT that should prove to be acceptable. A dual core is still the better option here for the higher clocks and so you're going to want to get your CPU at around 3.0GHz+. You could either OC your current chip, buy and OC a 5000BE (~$80) which should easily go up to 3GHz with just a multiplier change, or you could just get a 6400+ (~$145).
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