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Hey folks,

I run a LAN Party forum for a group of friends and we had an interesting post this morning. I thought I would share it with you to get your take on the subject. I'm not trying to start a flame war, I'm just curious what everyone thought of the post...


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If GPUs are anything like CPUs, I wouldn't overclock them. And maybe EVGA wants you to, and buys higher-bin parts when building their boards to allow that to happen. Sure, you can attach a gabillion heatsinks and super-water-liquid-nitrogen-cooler and say it works just fine. But when CPUs are overclocked, they tend to halt on instructions like:

XOR r1, 0x00 (set register1 = 0)

Even if you have an advanced cooling system. Raymond Chen's old new thing has a section on this.

To any programmer, this is simply unacceptable and impossible to debug.

IMHO, the only reason overclocking exists is for people who treat their computer like the late night street racers who cruise around Naperville, IL at night with their tricked out Honda Civics with neon paint jobs and ground effects. Sure, it's cool and it maybe gets you ladies, but it's posing; you really don't know what overclocking is really going to do to the software that runs on your CPU/GPU.

And if EVGA lets you overclock your CPU and keep it under warranty, that, to me, is lame b/c they've setup their cards to behave well under those circumstances. REAL GAMERS, real extreme PC users would take a junky card and overclock it. That, to me, is not posing. That is an achievement, and I would gladly tip my hat to the gamer that does that.

Edited by Isellion - 6/23/08 at 10:29am
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I'd say he doesn't know the first thing about overclocking.

The point is higher performance for less money, it all just depends upon your level of monetary (and time) commitment. I have learned quite a lot about tools, hardware, physics and other things in the pursuit of making my budget computer go faster.

The CPU overclock he mention means it is unstable, no overclocked. Any overclocked component should function exactly the same as the regular component. There is a higher chance of failure rate, so overclocking a dedicated server at work is a bad idea.
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he right, lazy programmers are the reason for my oc crashing not the airtemp
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cool
because I took my piece of crap x1300 with a stock core of 450 and overclocked it to 590.

this is a really good way of putting oc trueg50
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OCing is unlocking the potential the pc parts contain. Stock speeds are great and all but if i get a cpu that can run a lot faster with a little bit of tweaking I am more open to that, provided i can do it so it is completely stable just like a stock PC.
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What a 'tard. I'd gladly risk an occasional program error (and to be honest, it hasn't happened yet on my current rig) and get double the performance on cheap parts than buy a piece of hardware that cost twice as much to do it at stock. That said, if you know what you're doing, you can have a completely stable, significant overclock. Hell, I've had fewer problems on some overclocked rigs than buggy brand-name bone-stock computers that my parents have used.

To use the 'tard's analogy, it's like going out and buying an aston V12 Vanquish if your souped up civic can match the performance at a fraction of the cost (okay, a bit exaggerated--like an non-pro souped up civic will match a Vanquish's performance--but you get the point).

To reiterate--this guy is an ignorant 'tard.

EDIT--to address the last part of the 'tard's post, why would a real gamer go out and buy a junky card? That's just...retarded...
    
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I don't wanna spend money left and right for a good computer. If I can spend a little, and then push 30FPS more out of to make it playable by overclocking, great! Saves me money.
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how many times you going to call him a 'tard for a having an opinion?

I agree with you but calling him a 'tard makes you look like one.

At any rate, sure I agree with above posters -- it's simply unlocking the potential of any given cpu/gpu.

If your overclock is 100% stable, you shouldn't have any problems like that.

Sure you're prone to maybe less life of a cpu/gpu, but honestly, on a forum like OCN, most users who overclock switch to newer technology all the time. It's all about maximizing performance. I doubt it's 'posing'. It's more like 'actually overclocking'.

I don't see anything against it, except that most of us have a faster computer than he does for a fraction of the price.
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first of all....yes he is completely misinformed about cpu overclocking and the strive for stability we make.

Second, a honda civic is not racing.
    
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