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ok well i want to overclock but i dont know whats wrong im going to try and be as detailed as possible....... I bought a computer from cyberpower with these specs So everything was great i got it unwraped it.....turned it on and nothing happened...

i took a look inside and thought it was the video card, because nothing was happening when i turned it on and the screen said no video input, I swaped video cards with my old one and.. same thing happened....

so i took out one of the ram sticks and sure enough it powered up fine...........
i gave them a call told them what was wrong and they told me to go to the bios>jumperfreeconfig>fsb and memory config> and change auto to unlinked i did that then he told me to set the memory to 667...i did so Everything was fine but then i wanted to overclock i looked around and stuff tried it set the FSB from 1333mhz to 1366mhz and got a stable 3.1GHz

went to turn it up to 1399 (tried different thing after didnt make a difference) and it gets a no video input when i exit and save how i have to fix it is take out one ram stick (doesnt matter which) turn the comp back on and it will say system boot fail "your last system boot has failed blah blah blah click DEL to enter setup and change to default settings"

i do that and switch it back to 1333mhz save exit turn it off (after it boots up) put the other ram stick in again and it works fine...im not great at explaining things so i hope someone can tell me whats wrong...i think it has to do with bad ram? not bad as in broken but poor quality?


EDIT: sorry forgot to say that i didnt get the 800 WATT psu i got a 750 watt but they dont have that on the site anymore so..had to pick that sorry
Edited by obliviousfan131 - 6/23/08 at 11:24am
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post #2 of 55
Pictures of the RAM?

Anyway, it could just as easily be a problem with memory timings or system voltages that is holding you back.
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Here are some pictures of the ram in the computer if you need pictures of them out i will be glad to take some
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If that is corsair memory, it's likely a value version. Still, it does say that they are DDR800, so even if they are not exceptional overclockers, they should not be what is holding you back right now. You likely just need some more voltage.

I could probably give you a better idea of what they are capable of, and what settings may be appropriate if I had a better picture of them.

Could you take one out and get a shot of the lables and, if at all possible, the text on the individual memory ICs themselves?
Edited by Blameless - 6/23/08 at 11:35am
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Sure give me a few minutes
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I got my PC from CyberPower also, but mine worked great out of the box. When I chose the corsair or value select ram, I got Buffalo Select (yours could be different though).

For one, if your mem will not run at 800 and you have to set it to 677, I would complain, because that is not what they advertised. Mine ran fine at 800. I was able to OC my CPU fine also, but I have the e6420. I do have the same MB you chose as well. I would try to get the RAM replaced if it does not run at what it is supposed to run at.

EDIT: could be the MB also I guess.
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"if at all possible, the test on the individual memory ICs themselves?" Im sorry kind of new to OCing but if you tell me what that is ( i feel like a complete noob right now) then i will and here are some shots but you cant see them great It says "DDR2-800U 1GB MEAER400LA0101-08A6 pq1"
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Originally Posted by jbobb View Post
I got my PC from CyberPower also, but mine worked great out of the box. When I chose the corsair or value select ram, I got Buffalo Select (yours could be different though).

For one, if your mem will not run at 800 and you have to set it to 677, I would complain, because that is not what they advertised. Mine ran fine at 800. I was able to OC my CPU fine also, but I have the e6420. I do have the same MB you chose as well. I would try to get the RAM replaced if it does not run at what it is supposed to run at.

EDIT: could be the MB also I guess.
4 dimms can be very trying on a 650i board, so I think it's more likely to be a matter of tweaking some settings than anything actually being defective.

If something is actually flawed with the components themselves, then yes, a complaint and a replacement would be in order. However, other possibilities should be ruled out first.

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Originally Posted by obliviousfan131 View Post
"if at all possible, the test on the individual memory ICs themselves?" Im sorry kind of new to OCing but if you tell me what that is ( i feel like a complete noob right now) then i will and here are some shots but you cant see them great

It says "DDR2-800U 1GB MEAER400LA0101-08A6 pq1"
I meant "text". The writting on the little black chips is what I'm looking for.

I can see that it is PQi memory, which is not a bad brand, though not first tier.
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Oh thats "pq1 PQD2648S25R0809"
EDIT: so any suggestions on what i should do? and thanks for helping me out i know it might be a pain since im not great at explaining stuff but you the the idea
Edited by obliviousfan131 - 6/23/08 at 11:54am
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Alright, I can't find any information on those specific chips, and the info on that modle is pretty sparse on PQi's site, but I did find similar PQi memory that specifies 2.0v for DDR2-800 operation. With four dimms, you may need a touch more for overclocking.

Try setting the memory voltage (vdddr, vdimm, ect) to 2.05v and change the memory clock mode to linked. You may also want to add a small amount of voltage to the chipset (vNB or vMCH). Then attempt your overclock again. See if you can work your way up to 400MHz FSB or so.

If you can find the memory timing options, increasing the tRC (and tRFC if shown) may help.
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Fractal Design Define R4 Logitech G402 Realtek ALC1150 + M-Audio AV40 
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X5670 @ 4.4/3.2GHz core/uncore, 1.36 vcore, 1.2... Gigabyte X58A-UD5 r2.0 w/FF3mod10 BIOS Reference R9 290X w/Stilt's MLU 1000e / 1375m E... 2x Samsung MV-3V4G3D/US @ 2000, 10-11-11-30-T1,... 
RAMHard DriveHard DriveHard Drive
1x Crucial BLT4G3D1608ET3LX0 @ 2000, 10-11-11-3... OCZ (Toshiba) Trion 150 120GB Hyundai Sapphire 120GB 3x Hitachi Deskstar 7k1000.C 1TB 
CoolingOSPowerCase
Noctua NH-D14 Windows 7 Pro x64 SP1 Antec TP-750 Fractal Design R5 
Audio
ASUS Xonar DS 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
i7-6800K @ 4.3/3.5GHz core/uncore, 1.36/1.2v ASRock X99 OC Formula (P3.10) GTX 780 (temporary) 4x4GiB Crucial DDR4-2400 @ 11-13-12-28-T2, 1.33v 
Hard DriveHard DriveCoolingOS
Intel 600p 256GB NVMe 2x HGST Travelstar 7k1000 1TB Corsair H55 (temporary) Windows Server 2016 Datacenter 
PowerCase
Seasonic SS-860XP2 Corsair Carbide Air 540 
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