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A nice thread to start some flaming.
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Originally Posted by Porthios View Post
ATI crafts drivers specifically so that they can score higher on 3DMark and nothing else, and now Nvidia is doing the same thing. Boo-freaking-hoo. Let's cry about it some more.

And what equals a higher score for me is higher framerates. So, regardless of how the GPU is processing information on 3DMark, higher FPS = higher score, end of story. I don't care if Nvidia is using a fusion power source and alien technology. Higher FPS, still equals a higher score.
Ugh did you even read the friggin article? This is completly different.
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post #83 of 103
Has anyone compared the results of GPUPPU to the original Aegia? Im curious to know if the implementation is using 100% of the GPU or if it is merely using enough stream processors to match performace of the Aegia PhysX card.
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In my opinion DX10.1 should be what they included instead of physx, for the simple reason DX has alway been about graphics and has never once leaked into the CPU part of the test.
I completely agree. It doesnt matter if 10.1 isnt currently used by the vast majority of games- 3dmark has always scored based on Performance AND Feature set. ATI should be recieving additional points for 10.1 support.
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post #85 of 103
They have done it in the past and especially with Crysis where the differences were visible even. I wouldn't doubt it whatsoever they would do this.
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post #86 of 103
Waiiiiit, Are we SURE its all physics?

nVidia could put a 3Dmark cheat in along WITH the physics so more people get the new driver, Can someone do a seperate benchmark, looking at the GPU score please?
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post #87 of 103
FTA:
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If you look at the 3DMark Vantage Driver Approval Policy, section 3.5 clearly states, "Based on the specification and design of the CPU tests, GPU make, type or driver version may not have a significant effect on the results of either of the CPU tests as indicated in Section 7.3 of the 3DMark Vantage specification and whitepaper." When you run a CPU test on a GPU, it clearly violates the rules.
In a nutshell, here's the problem^

The reason that this is coming from the INQ rather than ATi is because this is a really pissy thing to whine about. Yes this is innovation if Nvidia sticks with it and adds this style of PhysX implementation to their gaming drivers. Hopefully the next version of 3DMark will embrace open standards instead of proprietary ones.
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The enquirer? Give me a break... They lie non-stop and give false info.
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Futuremark is setting up the test not Nvidia.
Indeed. If you read my post properly I said that Futuremark should be one that carries the burden of fixing this. All they need to do is have a third test, a physics one. That way the scores are based on GPU and CPU only, and have a second score that includes the physics processing capability. That and they need to have Havok support as it is the de-facto standard for physics in games.
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I see many people asking or people that don't know what games are supported by PhsyX so here it is:
Current list of PhsyX Games: http://www.nzone.com/object/nzone_physxgames_home.html
Why do they keep on claiming that AoE3 is a PhysX game? Age of Empires III and its expansions are not PhysX games. They are Havok games.

I have the god-damn game in front of me and on the back of the case it clearly says Havok.

If somebody wants I can even post a screen shot of the back of the case to prove that they are damn liars.
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