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i am quite intrested in knowing more is there any soruce from somewhere which is more crediable than http://www.laptopmag.com/

also

lets say they go through my laptop
they find my excel sheet with my company accounts, will they be intrested in that
and send it forward to HM Revenue & Customs

OR

are they looking for something which is directly against the law

in other words can they investagate anything they find or they r looking for something which is directly illegal
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i am quite intrested in knowing more is there any soruce from somewhere which is more crediable than http://www.laptopmag.com/

also

lets say they go through my laptop
they find my excel sheet with my company accounts, will they be intrested in that
and send it forward to HM Revenue & Customs

OR

are they looking for something which is directly against the law

in other words can they investagate anything they find or they r looking for something which is directly illegal
Read the article and don't forget page 2 titled "Put your phone where I can see".
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They list sources in there report.
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In many cases you are legally obligated to give them the password necessary to decrypt it, just as you are legally obligated to give them a key to a locked briefcase.
Trucrypt hidden folder FTW!
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In many cases you are legally obligated to give them the password necessary to decrypt it, just as you are legally obligated to give them a key to a locked briefcase.
this is not true. it's been found that giving up a password is self incrimination because it's an extension of your memory.

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Trucrypt hidden folder FTW!
TrueCrypt is merely a partition-level encryption tool. The master boot record is untouched and is vulnerable to the experienced data-recoverer. However it is a very good level of security.

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you think the government can['t] get through your encryption if they really wanted too?
not FDE. it's been well documented that even professional IT-PI's aren't able to reconstruct any data from an FDE drive.
Edited by yawnbox - 6/23/08 at 3:35pm
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this is not true. it's been found that giving up a password is self incrimination because it's an extension of your memory.

I was under the impression that the most recent ruling disagreed with this. EFF page on US v Arnold
Edited by rabidgnome229 - 6/23/08 at 3:48pm
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I make my own encriptions. I can make one that will take millions of hours to crack. Its very simple.
Well hehe I sure hope your encryptions don't require good spelling for you to design them......
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I was under the impression that the most recent ruling disagreed with this. EFF page on US v Arnold
you are correct regarding digital storage. however it had nothing to do with an encrypted storage medium.

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“Electronic storage devices function as an extension of our own memory,†Judge Pregerson wrote, in explaining why the government should not be allowed to inspect them without cause. “They are capable of storing our thoughts, ranging from the most whimsical to the most profound.â€

Computer hard drives can include, Judge Pregerson continued, diaries, letters, medical information, financial records, trade secrets, attorney-client materials and — the clincher, of course — information about reporters’ “confidential sources and story leads.â€

But Judge Pregerson’s decision seems to be headed for reversal. The three judges who heard the arguments in October in the appeal of his decision seemed persuaded that a computer is just a container and deserves no special protection from searches at the border. The same information in hard-copy form, their questions suggested, would doubtless be subject to search.
source: http://www.nytimes.com/2008/01/07/us...ss&oref=slogin

However I was inclined to follow a more fitting case: US v Boucher:

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Facts

The defendant's laptop was inspected when he crossed the border into the U.S. from Canada. Images that allegedly contained child pornography were viewed by border agents who then seized his laptop. The laptop was protected by the PGP Disk encryption program and the government was subsequently unable to read the contents of the drive "Z:", containing the images.

A grand jury then issued a subpoena for the passphrase needed to recover the encryption key that protects the data.

Decision of the United States District Court

On November 29, 2007, U.S. Magistrate Judge Jerome Niedermeier of the United States District Court for the District of Vermont stated "Compelling Boucher to enter the password forces him to produce evidence that could be used to incriminate him."[1] Accordingly, Niedermeier quashed the subpoena.

On January 2, 2008, the United States appealed the magistrate's opinion to the District Court in a sealed motion (court docket, case #: 2:06-mj-00091-wks-jjn-1).[2] The appeal is to be heard by U.S. District Judge William K. Sessions.[3]
source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_v._Boucher
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Originally Posted by rabidgnome229 View Post
In many cases you are legally obligated to give them the password necessary to decrypt it
And what are they going to do if you don't give them the password, torture you? Oh, wait, that's actually a possibility nowadays...


Edited by Nuxes - 6/23/08 at 4:46pm
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