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I've seen several OEM E8400's available. Is there any discernible difference performance-wise between OEM and retail?
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No it just means you dont get the fancy packaging and a heatskin just the cpu alone i think (not too sure on processors)
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I'm pretty sure that isn't the difference. I believe OEM processors are sent out to companies like Dell, HP, etc. Retail you by off the shelf. Of course, I could be wrong. I doubt Intel does anything to OEM chips, but once again I could be wrong.
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Buy OEM if you have a heatsink or plan on getting one, OEM is nothing but the processor, no manual, no box, and no stock cooler. I got an OEM E8400 because I bought a Zalman cooler, plus its cheaper than retail. The processors themselves are the exact same performance wise between retail and OEM.
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OEM Is just the Chip. No Box, No Cooler,No Manuals. Yes OEMS are Normally sent to HP,Dell and other makers,then they install their crappy coolers and mobos .They are the Exact same performance. OEM Would Save you a Few Bucks use those extra Moneyz to buy a nice cooler.
    
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I plan on buying a heatsink/fan combo anyway. Thanks.
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Originally Posted by chessmyantidrug View Post
I've read most games today don't take advantage of four cores so I'm leaning more and more to buying a dual-core processor I can overclock better.

I've read so much about the Q6600 G0 and it's ability to consistently overclock in the 3.4-3.6 GHz range and the Q6700 G0 to hit a little higher. I haven't seen near as many threads concerning the E8200, E8300, E8400 or E8500. In the 45nm information thread, I saw a quite a few people OC an E8500 3.7 GHz and higher with three reaching just over 4.0 GHz with a heatsink. Several people reached 4.0 GHz with a heatsink on an E8400 as well. Reaching for a Q9450 doesn't look like a good idea with OC's around 3.5 GHz with a heatsink.

From the looks of things, it looks like my money is best spent on an E8400 or E8500.

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and e8400 will generally reach 3.6GHz with little to no increase in voltage/temps. you can easily hit 4GHz with an E8400 staying within absolute max voltages. however, you don't see that big of a gain between 3.6GHz and 4GHz to justify wasting the extra voltage for a gaming setup. i run my e8400 24/7 at 3.6GHz/1.26V, i can do 4GHz @ 1.36V (after vdroop), but it just doesn't make that big of a difference in games. even in 3dmark06, i only see a couple of points. just not worth it IMO.

i bought the OEM, which was good since i always intended on getting the TT120 anyhow.
 
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post #18 of 71
After buying a Q I could not see myself ever owning another dual for my main sys again.

While the E8400 will clock higher and give you slightly better FPS in games, I would go with a Q6700 it will clock close to the same as an 8400 and gives you an extra 2 cores, which most will say games dont utilize/use whatever, I know for me my Q will never get to full load, or anything close to that while gaming, which in turn keeps temps lower and is less stress on the CPU.

And last but not least, being that nothing is challenging it yet, it will be a while before it is, which will mean you wont have to upgrade for a long while...
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post #19 of 71
Erm, you're missing the fact that those two extra cores aren't used. You'll never get to full load simply because those other two cores are sitting on their thumbs, what's the point of wasting the energy? Those Q6700's are 65nm, an E8400 is only 45, makes all the difference for temps and power consumption. Quads are still a waste for gaming no matter how you cut it. Buy them when they are actually used and needed, and prices will drop to accommodate them.
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post #20 of 71
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I understand the allure of getting a quad. Believe me, that's where I first looked. I didn't consider a dual core processor after looking at PC Gamer and Maximum PC build systems on $1500 earlier this year and I believe both magazines chose the Q6600 (~$270 at the time). But after reading hardly any games take advantage of four cores, I began to think it was rather frugal to get one. And if I did get one, I'd probably get a Q9450. But I can't justify spending the money on one if I won't see better performance in-game.

Down the road, once more and more games utilize four cores and I'm not seeing the same performance, I'll upgrade. By then, the Q9450 will probably cost around $240. I doubt I'll make the move to Nehalem because that'll involve a complete system overhaul, something I don't foresee myself doing for probably four or five years.
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