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i cant tell you how much my home school sucked......(and still does). I've always been a tech head, a geek/nerd, always at the computer usually reading stuff on OCN or looking up the specs on all the latest products. MY teachers always thought that i was wasting my life on the computer. just about the only class that i did extremly well in was History, mainly because it was hella interesting. all the other courses.....Math, Science, English.....just were nothing to me, they had nothing to do with what i wanted to do as a career or study in college. all our 12th grade english was, was reading British literature that some how always revolved around sex.

Today im happy in my 1 college class that is Computer electronics System Tech, and have had to use nothing from what they tired to teach us at our home school.
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I hate wiki, always done, always will...
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Originally Posted by Salku View Post
These times are different now, even if you read a book, most kids do not know how to read it or quite understand it.

Kids today read and write as ThIS iZ MaH RaPot 0n... SpAze (this is my report on space)

Oh god how this is sad but true.

You also cant blame the internet for being highly resourceful but whenever people want answers we GOOGLE it.

If I wanted to research of course I'll explore on the net but also get the resources on a book as well and slap a few quotes...
I don't agree and I think you'd have a hard time selling that idea

Im 14 and I know how to read a book, and where to look, which information to take in, the important stuff. Sure there are always dumb kids but the kid population is so large I think it's hard to generalize "kids these days just look things up on the net".

My friends and I go to encyclopedias first for our projects, presentations, etc.

But i agree that for little things I'm not going to the library, and the internet isn't a scapegoat for parents to dump all of the blame on for their children who just aren't motivated to succeed..
Edited by DarkNite - 6/24/08 at 1:57pm
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I agree with the majority here, however....

...there is something to be said about the smell and feel of an old, quality-crafted book, and sifting through pages of text in a nice encyclopedia or tome can be quite good for the soul.
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I agree with the majority here, however....

...there is something to be said about the smell and feel of an old, quality-crafted book, and sifting through pages of text in a nice encyclopedia or tome can be quite good for the soul.
No argument there, books are definitely made of win!
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Why spend ages reading a book when you can find the same information on the internet in under a 1 min?. The Internet is the BIGGEST source of information out there and is constantly updated. Why always refer to a book.

Yes books are good when you know for sure they contain the information you want and exactly where to find it. Other than that the internet is the best place to go IMO.
At my high school the library was very small and not very useful, so naturally I did a lot of researching on the internet.

However, at the university the library is at least 10 times the size and loaded with good stuff. The problem might just be that school libraries aren't that good and just don't have any resources.


The Internet is an incredibly useful tool for finding information, but the last book I researched in was current, medically accurate (with case studies and proper terminology,) easy to find, and had about thirty references explicitly stated, for one section of information.

Have I found anything of comparable quality on the Internet since? No.
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Wikipedia didn't exist when I was in high school. We had to resort to good, old-fashioned laziness or stupidity in order to fail. Kids these days have it too easy.
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The problem is kids are not taught how to learn. they are taught how to pass tests. Hence the teachers (most of them) set it up to run over the same material in the same way to get the kids to all pas the same tests. "Know this for this" not "Know this becasue if you have a general understanding of what, why, when it happened, you'll be a better, more rounded individual."

My dad, brother and sister are all teachers and, from seeing the other side of the job, most teachers do not care. When they do, it is near impossible for them to do anything about it. between the parents and the school and the towns etc. it isn't worth it. So, most get burnt out and turn into the teacher that teaches for a test to keep their job until they retire. these people should all look in the mirror when trying to blame someone. it isn't the source, it is how it is used etc.



(now, I am going to get back to work and do just enough to keep my job )
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whats the point going to a libary to research a book when you can stay at home and get the whole book to your pc from the internet LOL
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whats the point going to a libary to research a book when you can stay at home and get the whole book to your pc from the internet LOL
Another reason why we're all lard-asses.
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