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I guess you didn't read the article. I quoted it for you.
No. I read and disagreed.

Calling information false is not:
A sign of unintelligence
a sign of ignorance
or a sign of illiteracy

I question the validity of the article as I have read contradicting materials from more creditable sources...

This article is highly unintuitive compared to the quality of information we keep up here on OCN. It's dealing in absolutes. Sony no longer sells PS3 at a loss. they broke even a LONG time ago, and their gaming segment has turned a profit even last quarter. How?

They still got PS2 earning money for them. PS3 IS leading international sales charts.

Let me guess... tell me to read it again?
Edited by WhiteCrane - 6/24/08 at 2:35pm
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That or global warming.
Or the Patriot Act.

Freaking PA.
    
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No. I read and disagreed.

Calling information false is not:
A sign of unintelligence
a sign of ignorance
or a sign of illiteracy

I question the validity of the article as I have read contradicting materials from more creditable sources...

This article is highly unintuitive compared to the quality of information we keep up here on OCN. It's dealing in absolutes. Sony no longer sells PS3 at a loss. they broke even a LONG time ago, and their gaming segment has turned a profit even last quarter. How?

They still got PS2 earning money for them. PS3 IS leading international sales charts.

Let me guess... tell me to read it again?
Do you have sources. I'm not calling you a liar. Just saying share your wealth of info.

I know that the PS3 is leading International. And the PS2 is selling still. But Like I said before, if it costs $10 to make, and you sell it for $5, you're loosing money on that product no matter what you're making elsewhere. The question is, does it cost more to make the PS3 or not. This thread is about the PS3 making money, not about Sony turning profits.
Edited by bobalobabingbong - 6/24/08 at 3:13pm
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The hardcore gamers are in the PC industry! Wii takes the console war because they're audiences aren't hardcore gamers, come from all walks of life to play the cute/fun games.
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Or the Patriot Act.

Freaking PA.
Way off topic, but that avatar is priceless.
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No. I read and disagreed.
PS3 IS leading international sales charts.

Let me guess... tell me to read it again?
If sony is leading international against the 360, then it can't be a lot not unless more then 10 million of those sales come from the US alone. http://nexgenwars.com/ I do realize it's an estimate, but they do update their numbers when a figure is released. It's pretty hard to say that the 360 has sold ALMOST double what the PS3 had sold. Console gen wars are usually won by the the most number of games sold and how much money each company made.

If sony doesn't start making money soon on their console division, someone is going to answer to investors. Also they may end up going the way of the 360 the next console and focus just games first and then media second.

Either that, or they will copy the Wii's profit plan and make a cheap console that makes money and focuses only on games which is the main reason why people buy consoles.

When it comes to consoles, games should be first and multimedia should be second. Sony is trying to do everything in one go instead of focusing on the reason why consoles are here in the first place. where as the Wii focuses on what consoles are truly about and 360 manage to find a nice balance between the two.

Now if you look at the sales chart, you can see the 360 is slowly creeping up to the Wii, and almost two years later, demand for the Wii is still high. In my store we have to report at every store meeting to not tell customers if we have the Wii in stock or not so we can hold them for next week sales. If we did put them out they would sell out in one day. Two if it happens to rain the first day. The Wii has lapped the ps3 in sales already
    
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The hardcore gamers are in the PC industry! Wii takes the console war because they're audiences aren't hardcore gamers, come from all walks of life to play the cute/fun games.
Wrong, hardcore gamers play games regardless of what platform they're on. Which means we usually wind up owning every system. I'll belong to that group once FF13 comes out and prompts me to get a PS3.

I absolutely refuse to acknowledge any definition of "hardcore gamer" that defines it as over-competitive shooter freaks, which is how most people use the term these days. The same people who try to argue that gaming is a sport. Those people all suck.

And now, after once again hijacking a news thread for a mostly logical rant, Vulcan returns you to the topic at hand.
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If sony is leading international against the 360, then it can't be a lot not unless more then 10 million of those sales come from the US alone. http://nexgenwars.com/ I do realize it's an estimate, but they do update their numbers when a figure is released. It's pretty hard to say that the 360 has sold ALMOST double what the PS3 had sold. Console gen wars are usually won by the the most number of games sold and how much money each company made.

If sony doesn't start making money soon on their console division, someone is going to answer to investors. Also they may end up going the way of the 360 the next console and focus just games first and then media second.

Either that, or they will copy the Wii's profit plan and make a cheap console that makes money and focuses only on games which is the main reason why people buy consoles.

When it comes to consoles, games should be first and multimedia should be second. Sony is trying to do everything in one go instead of focusing on the reason why consoles are here in the first place. where as the Wii focuses on what consoles are truly about and 360 manage to find a nice balance between the two.

Now if you look at the sales chart, you can see the 360 is slowly creeping up to the Wii, and almost two years later, demand for the Wii is still high. In my store we have to report at every store meeting to not tell customers if we have the Wii in stock or not so we can hold them for next week sales. If we did put them out they would sell out in one day. Two if it happens to rain the first day. The Wii has lapped the ps3 in sales already
In the United States, the PlayStation 3 outsold the Xbox 360 for the first time in January 2008 according to the NPD Group.
The PlayStation 3 also outsold the Xbox 360 in February 2008, but was then outsold by the Xbox 360 in March 2008 according to the NPD Group.

According to Sony Computer Entertainment Europe, the PlayStation 3 had outsold the Xbox 360 from October 2007 onwards in Europe and in May 2008 it surpassed the Xbox 360 (which was released 16 months prior to the PlayStation 3) in total European sales.

The PS3 is kicking a$$ in Europe. And it's trying to catch in the US as well.

I got that for Wikipedia after I couldn't find updated info on Nexgenwars

I had the Wii. I got bored of it.
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Sony as a whole maybe. But on the console side if they aren't going to see a return from the PS3 then they aren't doing good at all.
isn't this taking away from other divisions too inside Sony? That much in debt would more likely impact the rest of the company...
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I think what a lot of people are missing is that the ps3 WAS the deciding factor in the high-def race. Even if the PS3 division never makes the money back, it was the price Sony paid for pushing Bluray on all of us, and they are very willing to live with that.

Now if HD-DVD had won, Sony would be in deep crap from this right now lol.
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