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Actually, Apple isn't that pricey. For their computers they are actually the same if you bought the same specs at another computer company. The problem is their upgrades are total rip-offs. They charge like $500 for Macbook Pro 4GB RAM. o_o;
You're pretty spot-on... The other thing to consider is the adware that comes with PCs.

If you do a direct apples-to-apples comparison, you'll see that prices are actually closer than what you might expect. But don't trust a stupid to do the comparison; they'll configure an HP with vista basic and a celeron and say, "See? So cheap!"

I've seen a touchscreen monitor for a Mac at Fry's before. I can't remember how it hooked up; I think it hooked up via VGA/DVI and then USB for the touch. It wasn't an overlay, though. It looked pretty cool, although I don't know if I'd like to be using it all day. I've realized that I probably sit too close to the computer, so I probably need to keep my head further from it. A touchscreen would compound my problems...

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Actually, Apple isn't that pricey. For their computers they are actually the same if you bought the same specs at another computer company. The problem is their upgrades are total rip-offs. They charge like $500 for Macbook Pro 4GB RAM. o_o;
Come on. In their laptop department they are a complete rip off.

T61p:

15.4" 1680x1050 LCD
Nvidia QuadroFX 570M (same as 8600GT)
Vista Ultimate
200GB 7200RPM
2GB DDR2-667
2.5GHz Core 2 Duo (45nm)
9 cell battery
Wireless AGN
DVD Burner

$1656

Mac Book Pro:

2.5Ghz Core 2 Duo
200GB 7200RPM
OSX
2GB DDR2-667
DVD drive
8600GT

$2549

Yeah the Mac Book Pro is 35% and there are 15% discounts on the T61p that I didn't ad....
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You're pretty spot-on... The other thing to consider is the adware that comes with PCs.

If you do a direct apples-to-apples comparison, you'll see that prices are actually closer than what you might expect. But don't trust a stupid to do the comparison; they'll configure an HP with vista basic and a celeron and say, "See? So cheap!"

I've seen a touchscreen monitor for a Mac at Fry's before. I can't remember how it hooked up; I think it hooked up via VGA/DVI and then USB for the touch. It wasn't an overlay, though. It looked pretty cool, although I don't know if I'd like to be using it all day. I've realized that I probably sit too close to the computer, so I probably need to keep my head further from it. A touchscreen would compound my problems...

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I love my macbook pro, it has such quality built compared to the Dells and HP's of the world. Plus Apple doesn't force you to upgrade the OS like Microsoft does.
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The only time its really dumb to buy a mac is if you are buying it for the purpose of playing all the latest and greatest games - in the same way that Linux is dumb for it too.

But all games and technicalities aside, a smart USER buys the computer that fits all his needs and that he can work the most efficiently on. For some people its a PC, and for others its a Mac. There's really nothing more to it than that.


Now, about the touchscreen monitors.....check here.
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Actually, Apple isn't that pricey. For their computers they are actually the same if you bought the same specs at another computer company. The problem is their upgrades are total rip-offs. They charge like $500 for Macbook Pro 4GB RAM. o_o;
do you even know what componets go in to Mac computers?

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You're pretty spot-on... The other thing to consider is the adware that comes with PCs.
Adware that comes with computers what about macs... all there crap they give you which I never use lol

tons of crap comes loaded on macs
Edited by Darkice - 6/24/08 at 8:20pm
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Why do people like touch screen devices so much. Computers are suppose to do work for me.
So you don't want a keyboard and mouse either? A touchscreen is just another input method. I can see clear advantages (just draw on the screen instead of trying to do so with your mouse)
    
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Paul - I think Lenovos are great for the price. Good quality, good price. As you've seen in my comparison, they're the only ones with computers significantly cheaper than Macs with comparable hardware. Comparing other companies' machines, however, the gap is actually much less. That's what I was trying to get at.

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Adware that comes with computers what about macs... all there crap they give you which I never use lol

tons of crap comes loaded on macs
1. There isn't any adware on a Mac except iWork and MSO 2004 or 2008 (depending on if you have Tiger or Leopard)

2. All that stuff you say you never use - you have the option to not install it when you use the installation disk. On an HP or dell, that recovery disk of yours is going to reinstall all that adware. It's there to drive down the price; you have to have it. If you don't want it, you have to go and disable all the services, delete all the crap... All that stuff yourself.

It's completely optional on a Mac. That's part of what you're paying for. I don't believe they're overpriced for no reason.

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So you don't want a keyboard and mouse either? A touchscreen is just another input method. I can see clear advantages (just draw on the screen instead of trying to do so with your mouse)
I think it would be good for artists, as in pictures, music, maybe even movies. Pictures the most, though, probably.
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yeah if you do the install if you buy it from a store its already thereand there is a lot more key notes photo booth stickys, safari(one of the better ones still like FF better) umm there paint program all there uneeded drivers they bundle in to one Imove Iphoto Ilife I this I that...

and Duh Dell and HP put crap on there they are crap lol

umm most the people on this forum build there comps and when you build you get only what you want like my comp has nothing but bear basics

side note did you know most MAC are running with server RAM?
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1.yeah if you do the install if you buy it from a store its already thereand there is a lot more key notes photo booth stickys, safari(one of the better ones still like FF better) umm there paint program all there uneeded drivers they bundle in to one Imove Iphoto Ilife I this I that...

and Duh Dell and HP put crap on there they are crap lol

2.umm most the people on this forum build there comps and when you build you get only what you want like my comp has nothing but bear basics

3.side note did you know most MAC are running with server RAM?
I am not a mac fan, in fact i despise them, i can see the lure towards them, but they are not for me. But in this case, i have to defend them from false claims.

1. he is refering to the norton trial, and all the other 3rd party junk software on hp, dell, acer, toshiba, ect.... machines that is on the factory image (and don't say it isn't, i work at staples in tech center and that includes in store setups for people, believe me, they all have it).
Where on a MAC, (don't flame me if I am wrong, haven't set on up in a while) the only software installed on the machine when you first start it up is apple programs like imovie, itunes and so fourth (and this is a large reason people by MAC's) but it also gives you the option to not install the software if you wish.

2. yes, most people on OCN build their own desktops, but it gets tricky when getting into laptops, that and the people on OCN account for a VERY small amount of people, most people want to go out and buy something they can plug in and it works.

3. as far as i know only the mac pro line uses fully buffered memory.
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Darkice, buddy, you need spell check or a friend to proofread your posts before you submit them. Reading through that swamp of a post was difficult enough for me; others will likely skip reading your posts in the future. That said...

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yeah if you do the install if you buy it from a store its already thereand there is a lot more key notes photo booth stickys, safari(one of the better ones still like FF better) umm there paint program all there uneeded drivers they bundle in to one Imove Iphoto Ilife I this I that...
That's true. But the best thing about OSX is the ease of use. If you don't want the program, you drag it to the trash and delete it. If you don't want those excess printer drivers, you drag them to the trash and delete them. That's it.

Oh, but what I was really talking about was adware that bogs the system down. iMovie does not bog the system down. Stickies does not bog the system down. They are not there to advertise to you in your face. In manufactured PCs, on the other hand, you got norton antivirus popping up in your face when you start your computer, spydoctor antispyware, HP welcome assistant, HP battery meter, HP control center, HP wireless assistant... You get the picture. Stuff that's there that's running as background processes to advertise to you and slow down your system. Those can be deleted if you work at it, of course, but the luxury of a Mac is that you simply don't have to deal with that stuff.

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and Duh Dell and HP put crap on there they are crap lol
True words

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umm most the people on this forum build there comps and when you build you get only what you want like my comp has nothing but bear basics
I don't see what that has to do with anything. True, but that doesn't change anything.

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Originally Posted by Darkice View Post
side note did you know most MAC are running with server RAM?
False statement. Only the Mac Pro, a workstation computer designed for professional use, uses a server motherboard, a server Xeon (2 x 4 cores), and fully buffered RAM.

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But in this case, i have to defend them from false claims.
Thank you for having a mind of your own, sir. Hopefully you don't get branded a fanboy anyway by some of these... people around here

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1. he is refering to the norton trial, and all the other 3rd party junk software on hp, dell, acer, toshiba, ect.... machines that is on the factory image (and don't say it isn't, i work at staples in tech center and that includes in store setups for people, believe me, they all have it).
Exactly what I'm referring to. Stuff that actually bogs down your computer and serves the purpose of advertising.

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Where on a MAC, (don't flame me if I am wrong, haven't set on up in a while) the only software installed on the machine when you first start it up is apple programs like imovie, itunes and so fourth (and this is a large reason people by MAC's) but it also gives you the option to not install the software if you wish.
The software is pre-installed, actually. iMovie and the like are installed with the computer, but they are not software that run as a background process. They can be deleted anyway by simply dragging them to the trash. If you use the reinstall disk and ever have to reinstall, though, you get the option of leaving all that stuff out.

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3. as far as i know only the mac pro line uses fully buffered memory.
Exactly.
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