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what 4870 on sale where
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You're assuming that the GTX280 isn't that much faster than the GTX260. I expect quite a difference (like between the 8800GTS (G80) and the 8800GTX. In that case, a single HD4850 isn't *that* close to a GTX280. And whether crossfire beats a single GTX280 is yet to be seen and depends on scalability. Finally, point is moot, given War's nVidia preference
I don't mean to hijack the thread and so this will be my last post regarding this, and this isn't an attempt to sway any decisions at this point.

There is no difference between a GTX280 and GTX260 excecpt for that the 260 is a salvage part created by disabling a small chunk of the shared GT200 die. As such, the performance difference between these two is not that great and you can see both of them in most of the GTX280 reviews. As for the HD4870 it fits in at about 5% faster than the 260 and only 10% slower than the GTX280 (again coming from that same site I linked earlier). Even if CrossFire scaled like absolute trash and gave a 15% gain, it's still faster than a single GTX280.

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I want to add in a new keyboard. Possibly a good but cheap one. Saitek Eclipse II?
I have one. It's a really nice keyboard IMO since it's not expensive. I will say that I would prefer the original Eclipse if it only had media buttons. The dimmer is kind of a gimmick too.
Edited by darkcloud89 - 6/24/08 at 9:33pm
post #33 of 43
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Chozart, I think I'm gonna take your build. But, I'm gonna replace the GTX 280 with SLI 9800GTX+. Reason? I want a keyboard. Also, you forgot AS5.

Build (updated):

* Thermaltake Armor Series VA8000BWS Black Aluminum / Steel ATX Full Tower Computer Case - Retail $144.99
* EVGA 132-CK-NF78-A1 LGA 775 NVIDIA nForce 780i SLI ATX Intel Motherboard $249.99
* XFX PVT98FYDBU GeForce 9800 GTX Black Edition 512MB 256-bit GDDR3 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Supported Video Card $249.99
* CORSAIR CMPSU-750TX 750W ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply $129.99
* Intel Core 2 Quad Q9300 Yorkfield 2.5GHz LGA 775 95W Quad-Core Processor Model BX80580Q9300 $269.99
* G.SKILL 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 1066 (PC2 8500) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory Model F2-8500CL5D-4GBPK $89.99
* 2X Western Digital Caviar SE16 WD3200AAKS 320GB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s Hard Drive - OEM $139.98
* Western Digital Caviar SE16 WD6400AAKS 640GB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s Hard Drive $99.99
* Pioneer 20X DVD±R DVD Burner Black SATA Model DVR-215DBK $30.99
* Microsoft Windows Vista Home Premium SP1 64-bit English for System Builders 1pk DSP OEI DVD $99.99
* Tuniq T-120-LFB 120mm CPU Cooler $49.99
* Saitek PK02 2-Tone 104 Normal Keys USB Standard Eclipse II Keyboard $49.99
* Arctic Silver 5 Thermal Paste $5.99
Edited by WarPriest - 6/25/08 at 6:10am
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Not to shoot down your life aspiration of owning an Nvidia card, but those 9800GTX+'s are just 9800GTX's with a shrunk die, and slightly overclocked. They offer nothing that another card couldn't (for cheaper).
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Originally Posted by WarPriest View Post
Chozart, I think I'm gonna take your build. But, I'm gonna replace the GTX 280 with SLI 9800GTX+. Reason? I want a keyboard. Also, you forgot AS5.

Build (updated):

* Thermaltake Armor Series VA8000BWS Black Aluminum / Steel ATX Full Tower Computer Case - Retail $144.99
* EVGA 132-CK-NF78-A1 LGA 775 NVIDIA nForce 780i SLI ATX Intel Motherboard $249.99
* XFX PVT98FYDBU GeForce 9800 GTX Black Edition 512MB 256-bit GDDR3 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Supported Video Card $249.99
* CORSAIR CMPSU-750TX 750W ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply $129.99
* Intel Core 2 Quad Q9300 Yorkfield 2.5GHz LGA 775 95W Quad-Core Processor Model BX80580Q9300 $269.99
* G.SKILL 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 1066 (PC2 8500) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory Model F2-8500CL5D-4GBPK $89.99
* 2X Western Digital Caviar SE16 WD3200AAKS 320GB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s Hard Drive - OEM $139.98
* Western Digital Caviar SE16 WD6400AAKS 640GB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s Hard Drive $99.99
* Pioneer 20X DVD±R DVD Burner Black SATA Model DVR-215DBK $30.99
* Microsoft Windows Vista Home Premium SP1 64-bit English for System Builders 1pk DSP OEI DVD $99.99
* Tuniq T-120-LFB 120mm CPU Cooler $49.99
* Saitek PK02 2-Tone 104 Normal Keys USB Standard Eclipse II Keyboard $49.99
* Arctic Silver 5 Thermal Paste $5.99
Enough about the ATI cards... they're nice, but he wants nVidia. Respect his choice

Very nice set up. Total is $1,861.85. Thus, there is room to upgrade the CPU from a Q9300 to a Q9450. If you plan to overclock, this is a worthwhile upgrade. The Q9300 has a multi of only 7, while theQ9450 has a multi of 8, making your overclocking life a bit easier.
    
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post #36 of 43
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I spent about 30-40 mins on the below build...at work. >

Build (updated again):

Parts need to get:

Case: Thermaltake Kandalf VA9000BWS ATX Full Tower - $189.00 w/ $18.99 Shipping
PSU: Corsair CMPSU-750TX 750W - $129.99 w/ Free Shipping
Motherboard: EVGA 132-CK-NF78-A1 780i - $249.99 w/ $8.55 Shipping
CPU: Intel Q9450 2.66GHz - $329.99 w/ Free Shipping
GPU: EVGA 512-P3-N875-AR 9800 GTX KO - $209.99 w/ $7.59 Shipping
RAM: Corsair Dominator 4GB (2x2GB) DDR 1066 - $136.00 w/ Free Shipping
HDD1: 2x WD SE16 320GB SATA - ($69.99 ea.) $139.98 w/ Free Shipping
HDD2: WD SE16 640GB SATA - $99.99 w/ Free Shipping
HSF: Tuniq T-120-LFB CPU Cooler - $49.99 w/ $7.59 Shipping
DVD Drive: Pioneer 20X DVD±R DVD Burner Black SATA Model DVR-215DBK - $30.99 w/ $7.00 Shipping
OS: Windows Vista Home Premium SP1 - $99.99 w/ Free Shipping
Accessory: Saitek Eclipse II Keyboard - $49.99 w/ $7.59 Shipping

Part that I have:
HDD: Hitachi Deskstar 250GB SATA - Already own.
Accessories: Creative Fatal1ty, Razer Diamondback
Monitor: Samsung T220 22" Widescreen

Grand Total: $1769.54

Notes: HDD1 will be set up in RAID 0
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post #37 of 43
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Originally Posted by WarPriest View Post
I spent about 30-40 mins on the below build...at work. >

Build (updated again):

Parts need to get:

Case: Thermaltake Kandalf VA9000BWS ATX Full Tower - $189.00 w/ $18.99 Shipping
PSU: Corsair CMPSU-750TX 750W - $129.99 w/ Free Shipping
Motherboard: EVGA 132-CK-NF78-A1 780i - $249.99 w/ $8.55 Shipping
CPU: Intel Q9450 2.66GHz - $329.99 w/ Free Shipping
GPU: EVGA 512-P3-N875-AR 9800 GTX KO - $209.99 w/ $7.59 Shipping
RAM: Corsair Dominator 4GB (2x2GB) DDR 1066 - $136.00 w/ Free Shipping
HDD1: 2x WD SE16 320GB SATA - ($69.99 ea.) $139.98 w/ Free Shipping
HDD2: WD SE16 640GB SATA - $99.99 w/ Free Shipping
HSF: Tuniq T-120-LFB CPU Cooler - $49.99 w/ $7.59 Shipping
DVD Drive: Pioneer 20X DVD±R DVD Burner Black SATA Model DVR-215DBK - $30.99 w/ $7.00 Shipping
OS: Windows Vista Home Premium SP1 - $99.99 w/ Free Shipping
Accessory: Saitek Eclipse II Keyboard - $49.99 w/ $7.59 Shipping

Part that I have:
HDD: Hitachi Deskstar 250GB SATA - Already own.
Accessories: Creative Fatal1ty, Razer Diamondback
Monitor: Samsung T220 22" Widescreen

Grand Total: $1769.54

Notes: HDD1 will be set up in RAID 0
So only one 9800GTX for now? It's plenty though I guess

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post #38 of 43
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for now... I plan on OCing the 9800GTX from the stock 738GHz to 750GHz.
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post #39 of 43
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Originally Posted by WarPriest View Post
for now... I plan on OCing the 9800GTX from the stock 738GHz to 750GHz.
738 is actually the stock speed for the 9800GTX+

I thought that thing was going to truely perform better by larger margin!

Back on topic: Why did you choose to have two storage devices? (HDD1 RAID and HDD2) In my opinion, it's easier if you just get 750GB+ worth of RAID 0, it's about the same price but performs better. It also puts less strain on the I/O.
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738 is actually the stock speed for the 9800GTX+

I thought that thing was going to truely perform better by larger margin!

Back on topic: Why did you choose to have two storage devices? (HDD1 RAID and HDD2) In my opinion, it's easier if you just get 750GB+ worth of RAID 0, it's about the same price but performs better. It also puts less strain on the I/O.
That was on my advice. I'd NEVER put data on a RAID array, esp. RAID0. The moment I upgrade the mobo to one that doesn't recognize the RAID array, you'd have to find a way to backup GB's worth of DATA. That's why I recommend a single HDD for the data. And, the extra strain on the controller is negligible.
    
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