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Why the hell are those results posted with ridiculously high res? Show the results for the resolution that most of us play at (1680x1050) or as close as you can. I bet those results would look a LOT different.



Yeah you're right, so let's all go get the GX2. It takes 2 4870's to match a GX2 (sometimes), and a GX2 is only $429. 2 4870's is $600, plus you need a crossfire mobo. With a GX2 you can use any mobo because it is single-slot.

All this talk about price/performance only goes so far. There are plenty of people that want the best performance they can get, regardless of price. I could have stuck with my 9600 GT which was a little beast for being only $140, but I have had a GX2 before and loved how it tore through every game I own without breaking a sweat.
There is also a lot of difference between a 9600GT and a 9800GX2. there is not as much difference between a 4870 and a GTX280. I do agree, I want to see a comparison between the 8800GTS and the 4870 at 1680x1050. Since that is what I have, that is what I want to see compared


I think you are all silly to buy the GTX280. The price difference vs the performance is way out of wack. I don't care what company you root for, that is just dumb.




edit: And also, it seems like the performance is WAY too game dependant. I am going to wait for a driver update and some more benches to see where these all end up.
Edited by dralb - 6/25/08 at 2:24pm
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There is also a lot of difference between a 9600GT and a 9800GX2. there is not as much difference between a 4870 and a GTX280. I do agree, I want to see a comparison between the 8800GTS and the 4870 at 1680x1050. Since that is what I have, that is what I want to see compared
That is exactly what I want to see. I'm sure others do also. I'm sure the 4870 will be more powerfull, but how much. Sure, you can look at old reviews of the 8800GTS to see what it benched at, but those numbers are with the drivers that were out then and possibly before game patches were available also.

If someone knows where to find any reviews that have the 4870 and 8800GTS included, let us know. Maybe they will add them into the reviews in time though.
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amd wins for basically the rest of '08, but i wonder what will happen with the HD5000 series next year......
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amd wins for basically the rest of '08, but i wonder what will happen with the HD5000 series next year......
VDDR6 or 7 for 5870? anybody ?
    
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I want to see a comparison between the 8800GTS and the 4870 at 1680x1050. Since that is what I have, that is what I want to see compared
If you want see that comparison, its there in most of the benches, its called the 9800GTX...at stock, it performs very much the same as a stock 8800GTS 512.
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If you want see that comparison, its there in most of the benches, its called the 9800GTX...at stock, it performs very much the same as a stock 8800GTS 512.
I know, but it would still be nice as there are t9ons of people with the 8800GTS's.
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I just made my mind up for my next card....winner is ATI 4850!! Cannot beat the price, under $200, and it is single slot. May even set up a CF system down the road.

4870's are gonna sell like hotcakes, nice to see ATI making some badly needed noise. I would love to have one, but I will not spend more than $200 on a video card.

The way some guys are talking on here, if Nvidia had the gtx280 for $1000 they would buy it! Glad to know some folks have money to waste, I sure the hell do not. Of course some folks have to get the latest and greatest no matter the cost, to brag.
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amd wins for basically the rest of '08, but i wonder what will happen with the HD5000 series next year......
Well, there's already rumors starting up about those...
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Two graphics Vice Presidents at AMD, Matt Skynner, the Vice President of Graphics Marketing, and John Byrne the Vice President of Worldwide GPU Sales, have confirmed to Fudzilla that the next generation high-end graphics card will again be dual chip.

We're not talking about R700, as this card is almost at our door step, we are talking about the R8x0 card that should show up at some point next year.
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High profile ATI executives have told Fudzilla that ATI was looking into whether it's possible and beneficial to clock the Shaders at higher clock speeds than the GPU clock, and the engineers have decided that they cannot make it work on RV770 chips.

They will be investigating if this pays off, as ATI and Nvidia do Shaders completely differently; and if it pays off there might be a chance that ATI will clock its Shaders faster than the GPU clock. This is, of course, as of next generation, let's call it RV870.
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With this information coming already, it's nice to see that AMD isn't going to sit on their ass admiring their own accomplishments this generation.

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Found another interesting little tidbit for everyone that was bringing up drivers:
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The dual RV770-based R700 card is supposed to launch in August time, rather late than early, and the hardware is ready; it is now all up to the drivers.
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If they're postponing the R700 because of drivers that would lead me to believe that we can expect CF to scale much better than what this benchmark indicates. This makes sense seeing as the memory controller was almost completely redone with R7xx and they would need time to optimize the driver for that, as well as some other not insignificant architectural improvements.
Edited by darkcloud89 - 6/25/08 at 3:06pm
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did you see this one compares nvidia shaders vs ATi's

http://www.fudzilla.com/index.php?op...=8114&Itemid=1
    
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Wish I had the money for a 4870. Been saving up for a engagement ring so maybe I can get this as an engagement gift.

$3000 ring vs $300 graphics card since about even.
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