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The 4870 beat the GTX 280 in Bioshock (which was because there is no option for AA in Bioshock, otherwise the GTX 280 would've beat the 4870) and power consumption, what's your point?

I would rather have the GTX 280 than the 4870.

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where is 8800 GTX SLI and TRi SLI?
Why do we need TRI-SLi? We're only comparing apples with apples here.


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The 4870 beat the GTX 280 in Bioshock (which was because there is no option for AA in Bioshock, otherwise the GTX 280 would've beat the 4870) and power consumption, what's your point?

I would rather have the GTX 280 than the 4870.
Loyal nVidia fanboy. Everyone will just be laughing at the extra 50% he spends on the GTX 280 for an additional 10% performance. For that nVidia loves you.
Edited by OpTicaL - 6/24/08 at 11:09pm
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You get 90% of the performance of the GTX 280 for 50% of the price...
with the 50% saved just buy another for crossfire and you know the rest
    
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The 4870 beat the GTX 280 in Bioshock (which was because there is no option for AA in Bioshock, otherwise the GTX 280 would've beat the 4870) and power consumption, what's your point?

I would rather have the GTX 280 than the 4870.
Pfft. This whole "AA-kills-ATI" cards is a myth and has been debunked for a while now. AF is what hurt the ATI cards, not AA. Not only that though, but ATI actually does AA better than Nvidia does!

As for the article, the results are a bit all over the place, but when the ATI card does well, it really does well. Expect the performance to increase a fair bit and level out with driver updates guys.
Edited by voice - 6/24/08 at 11:16pm
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The 4870 beat the GTX 280 in Bioshock (which was because there is no option for AA in Bioshock, otherwise the GTX 280 would've beat the 4870) and power consumption, what's your point?

I would rather have the GTX 280 than the 4870.
the problems with AA and AF are fixed in the 4XXXseries read man
    
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Hey guys, I'm new here. I'm a gamer who decided he should learn about the hardware he's using, and have since built 2 machines. I've been going to Anandtech for only a few weeks, but I'm really impressed with their reviews and previews of hardware, they are very impressive. For instance, putting up that 4870 just hours after their 9800GTX+ preview, where it was mentioned in a single sentence. At any rate, this card pretty much blows away the competition due to price/performance ratio, Nvidia cards are very expensive, not to mention draw a lot of power. I really think that either Nvidia got really lazy or really desperate releasing all of these card models so quickly after each other.
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Why do we need TRI-SLi? We're only comparing apples with apples here.
Well all of the tests included the 4850 and 4870 in crossfire, so why not throw in GTX 280 SLI?

Lol, the GTX 280 even beat 4870's in crossfire in the Enemy Territory test.
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Umm I'm kind of confused so if someone could help me out I'd appreciate it...

The 9800GX2 is onpar with (2)4870's in CF so its $430 versus $600 (Give or take) and only CoD4 and Oblivion is where the 4870's shined above the 9800GX2.

Still lost...does it come down to these games/apps have to have developers who aren't lazy and useless so that CF is fully utilized or what?

I'm sure as hell not even interested in the GTX280 and whatnot...just midrange cards (Sub $300-$400 area)
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what the hell is going on, ati cards used to get raped when using AA

but now it seems that AA's butthole is being forcibly clenched by ATI
ATI never really had an AA problem but an AF problem. In reviews they turn both on at the same time and put AA first (ie. 4AA/16AF) so people thought AA killed performance. Heres a linky
http://www.computerbase.de/artikel/h...d_afskalierung
Compared to Nvidia cards ATi in general had less of a performance hit when turning up AA. With AF thats a different story. On ATI cards AF is handeled by the TMUs. ATI simply increased the number of TMUs to overcome this problem.
http://www.overclock.net/hardware-ne...ml#post4000595
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Umm I'm kind of confused so if someone could help me out I'd appreciate it...

The 9800GX2 is onpar with (2)4870's in CF so its $430 versus $600 (Give or take) and only CoD4 and Oblivion is where the 4870's shined above the 9800GX2.

Still lost...does it come down to these games/apps have to have developers who aren't lazy and useless so that CF is fully utilized or what?

I'm sure as hell not even interested in the GTX280 and whatnot...just midrange cards (Sub $300-$400 area)
Kind of. Some games do better with Nvidia cards, while others do better with ATI cards.
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