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Umm... How the heck is 4870 CF more than 100% efficient in some cases???
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Looks like pretty good performance. i look forward to seeing what people have to say on here after actually using one.
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Umm... How the heck is 4870 CF more than 100% efficient in some cases???
It happens. Too many factors to list that could cause it to happen though.
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I currently don't have the money to upgrade my GPU, or any part of my computer, but when I do get the money, I will most likely get a GTX 280 (if I even need that much power, being that I don't game as much as I used to).

Don't get me wrong guys, the 4870 is a great card for the money. But when someone makes a thread saying "AMD wins" when the 4870 lost over half of the benchmarks to the GTX 280, I will makes posts like what I'm doing.

I still don't get your logic. You don't have the money now to upgrade any part of your PC, possibly meaning you don't have a particularly large source of income, so you will pay a large premium for a small percent increase in performance? I mean I guess if you really LOVE Nvidia, go for it, it's your money. And the reason the 4870 loses to the GTX280 is because it's not the supposed competitor. It's a line down from the GTX280 equivalent from AMD. I just don't know about you, but in my opinion, fanboyism isn't worth the premium you must pay in this instance.
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I still don't get your logic. You don't have the money now to upgrade any part of your PC, possibly meaning you don't have a particularly large source of income, so you will pay a large premium for a small percent increase in performance? I mean I guess if you really LOVE Nvidia, go for it, it's your money. And the reason the 4870 loses to the GTX280 is because it's not the supposed competitor. It's a line down from the GTX280 equivalent from AMD. I just don't know about you, but in my opinion, fanboyism isn't worth the premium you must pay in this instance.
I just payed for a $4000 Ford Focus out of pocket around a couple weeks ago. My savings is dead and I'm slowly recovering.
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AF is what hurt the ATI cards, not AA. Not only that though, but ATI actually does AA better than Nvidia does!
Not sure what you've been smoking, but hook me up!!

Traditionally, AA kills the HD2000 and HD3000 series, and AF has almost zero impact. I have AF forced to 16X with high quality mipmaps on my 2900 because disabling it and using normal mipmaps only has 1-3fps increase in performance.

AA on the other hand, kills everything. In UT3 for example, if I enable only 2x box AA, my average FPS will drop from 70-100 to ~16fps.
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Looks like pretty good performance. i look forward to seeing what people have to say on here after actually using one.
I plan on buying to upgrade from my 3870, I'll let you guys know within a few months, although obviously you'll have heard something before then.
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Not sure what you've been smoking, but hook me up!!

Traditionally, AA kills the HD2000 and HD3000 series, and AF has almost zero impact. I have AF forced to 16X with high quality mipmaps on my 2900 because disabling it and using normal mipmaps only has 1-3fps increase in performance.

AA on the other hand, kills everything. In UT3 for example, if I enable only 2x box AA, my average FPS will drop from 70-100 to ~16fps.
If only you read a little further down from my post.

Source: http://www.overclock.net/hardware-ne...ml#post4082808

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ATI never really had an AA problem but an AF problem. In reviews they turn both on at the same time and put AA first (ie. 4AA/16AF) so people thought AA killed performance. Heres a linky
http://www.computerbase.de/artikel/h...d_afskalierung
Compared to Nvidia cards ATi in general had less of a performance hit when turning up AA. With AF thats a different story. On ATI cards AF is handeled by the TMUs. ATI simply increased the number of TMUs to overcome this problem.
http://www.overclock.net/hardware-ne...ml#post4000595
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All but 1 test is in 2560x1600....and its all playable! We are getting a little spoiled with these new cards, lol. Hell I'm still at 1280x1024 and 1360x768.


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Sorry but whether its ATI or Nvidia they should have the drivers completely ready before releasing the product.

You don't see this kind of **** with consoles...they don't release the Xbox or Playstations and require you to patch it 50 times before you can play Halo.

/vent off
Thats completely different. You have 1 company making a game optimizing it for 1 peice of hardware. Video card manufactures have to release drivers that are optimized for hundreds of different games. They need people to point out where cards have trouble so they can make the drivers force the game to use all the features of their card, especially making them use all 800SP in the new ATI cards.
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If only you read a little further down from my post.

Source: http://www.overclock.net/hardware-ne...ml#post4082808
Not sure whats wrong with those benchmarks, but the AF hit is little to none compared to AA on my dated R600 (the base architecture for the HD3000 and HD4000 series).
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