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Hello. I am sure this question has been asked a few times, but I couldn't find just 1 post that exactly answered my question.

I just bought a GA-EP35-DS3L and a E8400. My case is arriving today and I am going to set it up. I took out the parts to inspect and I was horrified by the stock HSF that came with the E8400. No Heatpipes at all. The heatsinks I was looking at 4-6years ago (the juice box ones) looked better than this. It was flat and round and not that tall. Even my Dell Dimension 8400 that I got 4 years ago has heatpipes.

Anyways. I know I need to order a new HSF, but I refuse to wait another 4-5 days for Newegg to set up my new PC or pay $60 for a typhoon that I dont really want. So, I am going to set it up with the HSF, and run the core stock for a while. When I looked at the thermal pad/grease on the bottom of the HSF, it looked like a mostly-square piece was applied that had 2 little blank lines through it. Should I remove this stuff and buy AS5? Or can I just slap it on for now until my new HSF comes? I really just need to know if everything stock will get me by for now since Im a little short on time.

My only worry is that if I scrape the crap on the stock HSF off, I will mis-apply the AS5 and screw up my CPU. I'll have to do it eventually (unless I get a HSF with the MX-1 pad), but for now, is it safe to let the stock HSF and stock thermal stay on for stock CPU (no OCing)? Will it cause any problems to not use AS5 now?

Thanks for the advice.
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post #2 of 6
The E8400 is quite efficent, and does not put off much heat untill you start going above ~1.275v or going past ~3.6GHz. I was able to run my E8400 with perfect stability and acceptable temps at 3.6Ghz with the stock cooler. The stock grease on the stock cooler is not that bad.

Anyway, if you do get a new heatsink, you will obviously need new thermal compound. AS5 will work, though there are numerous superior options (TC grease 00098, OCZ Freeze, Arctic Cooling MX-2, Noctua NT-H1, ect).

It's nearly impossible to "screw up" a CPU from a poor aplication of thermal grease. Regardless, thermal grease is not hard to apply correctly.
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If you're going to run your computer at stock speed, you will be fine using the stock heat sink and the stock thermal paste that comes pre-applied on it. If you have AS5 in hand, I recommend using it. I dropped 4C with my stock heat sink from my quad from going stock paste to AS5. You can easily remove any thermal paste with isopropyl alcohol. The higher the percentage, the better. I tend not to use anything lower than 80%.

Mounting the round stock heat sink from Intel is a hair pulling task to do! Sometimes, the pins just doesn't go in and stay put.

This is my method and I've had many successful attempts on mounting the stock heat sink.

If you look at the heat sink, you'll see four pins. Each tab has a curving arrow.

Curving inward = unlock
Curving outward = lock

Set all four tabs to lock position before mounting. Place your heat sink on your processor and the pins toward the holes. One by one, push down on each tab until you hear a click. That click means that the pins are locked onto the motherboard.

I don't like setting the tabs to unlock and the mounting it and then turning the tabs to lock. One pin never stays in.

Oh and by the way, if you're going to run at stock speed, it is possible to reduce your voltage. That would give less heat to deal with with a stock cooler. Just remember that your CPU will be stable. But you are also able to overclock with stock voltage. It's all trail and error.
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post #4 of 6
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I see. Thanks for the reassurance guys. I was worried about the stock grease since I heard 1 person say it sets in and never comes off again fully. No idea if that was bunk or not.

For clocking procedures, the last time I installed a mobo and cpu myself (4 years ago, athlon xp 3000+), the mobo wasn't set correctly for the frequency of the CPU. It detected an athlon, but was running it at 1.xGHz instead of 2.x where it shouldve been. Since I know that the intel multipliers are locked, the FSB controls the clock speed. So if I turn up the external frequency to 333MHz, that is not considered an overclock, correct? Just trying to plan for everything for when I get home. Thanks.
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I am confuse about what you are saying. I don't know about the situation about the Athlon problem though.

Intel's multipliers are not locked. If you have a custom built computer and you're not using one of those Intel built motherboards, then you will be able to change your multiplier and frequency. Pre-built computers (Dell, HP, etc.) those options in BIOS are fully locked. The highest you can do with your E8400 is 9x and the lowest is 6x. I believe by default/stock you are running at 9x333 = Pretty close to 3GHz. But yes, by default on your motherboard, they will be locked, but you are given the option to enable the feature so that you can manually change your multiplier and frequency.

I don't know if that answers your questions though. You and I have similar motherboards, so I should be able to help you specifically with a BIOS option if you have any questions about it.
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Thanks Tai. Forget what I said before, I was rambling. I misspoke. What I meant was that any more than 9 multipliers are physically locked out of the 8400 (or they dont have them). So I will be setting it at 9x and 333 external. What I had happen once before was that the mobo I bought (not dell) was pre-setting the freq for an AMD chip lower than its stock frequency.

Sorry if what I said was confusing. I tend to worry a lot about stuff that isn't that big of a deal. Thanks again.
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