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I really think the Vista lovers haven't done enough XP/Samba to Vista network file transfers, NTFS permission editing, or remote/cmdline administration to realize how broken Vista really is. Explorer (and a bunch of stuff like image viewer) can't even be run as administrator from within a user account? Wow, so much for UAC.

I'm pretty sure Intel has thought over this very well. It would cost them way too much money scratching their heads and figuring out workarounds for Vista problems that they never had with XP, compared to the little "performance benefit with high end systems" and extra bells and whistles that Vista offers.

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Originally Posted by Mrzev View Post
I think if Vista came out in a couple more years, that it would have been a lot better.
That's true, but as with any critical software such as the OS, upgrading is a very difficult decision for large organizations due to all the costs involved. Many IT companies are even reluctant to upgrade from Java 1.4 to Java 6, what more with the OS?

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Oh, and turn off UAC and the security alerts.
Ohhh boy.
Edited by arkheii - 6/26/08 at 1:00pm
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+1....Vista FTL...just wait till 7 appears
Judging by your outdated system and eagerness to make fun of Vista, I would guess you do not have alot of money.
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Why the hell does Vista need tweaking? what's wrong with it on it's own? All the "tweaking" I need do is install Firefox, Winamp, xFire, Rivatuner and my games. Oh, and turn off UAC and the security alerts.

It uses lots of memory? Good, that's what memory is ****ing there for. Vista also makes great use of the pagefile (for a change) so when you run a RAM intensive operation, unneeded processes are dumped ot the PF until you exit them (say, Crysis which takes 1900 of my 2048 memory)
Well, first off in my post I said that I was glad that Vista used more memory...

As for tweaking there is all sorts of things. open up the MSC console and there are all sort of un-need services. Things like smart cards, ipod junk, troubleshooting services that no one would ever use any way. Most of these types of services were available on XP, but only after you turned them on. In Vista there are there by default.

And turning off UAC is not nesacarily a small quick tweak. I've had eight people bring me computers or complain about "this virus they got off the Vista install disk". I was in best buy one day and some one was at the customer service desk trying to get his money back because of it...and the geek squad wasn't even there trying to help him, so I stepped over and set him right.

Oh and another more important tweak is to shut off the auto hard drive defrag service...it will lessen the amount of hard drive activity on your machine.
Edited by Vagrant Storm - 6/26/08 at 1:33pm
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I love Vista for personal use, but I can easily see why businesses have no need for it.

I'm doing an Internship at Cisco right now, and my work laptop has XP, as do all of the Windows machines, as far as I know. All we need is an OS with some proprietary apps like Word for all those .doc files and such.

I really dislike XP now, because I prefer Vista so much, but it wouldn't make sense to put Vista on this laptop. It has a decent Core2 Duo in it, but only 1GB of RAM, so it's a great candidate for XP. Vista would sadly be too slow.
    
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Oh and another more important tweak is to shut off the auto hard drive defrag service...it will lessen the amount of hard drive activity on your machine.
The auto defrag is just a scheduled job that runs once a week.
    
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Judging by your outdated system and eagerness to make fun of Vista, I would guess you do not have alot of money.



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tbh now , it wouldent make much sense to make an upgrade.. win 7 will be here in jan 2010... so why not just wait...
Lol.

"Windows 13 will be here within the century, why not just wait?"

In the computer world, 1 1/2-2 years is a loooong time.

But I agree. I'm still using XP. Mainly because I've had some hiccups with Vista and I don't want to go through making Vista into what I've made XP. I've got everything I need, and I just can't do DX10. Or play Halo2PC. Or use 3dmarkVantage.

Damnit...
    
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Explorer (and a bunch of stuff like image viewer) can't even be run as administrator from within a user account? Wow, so much for UAC.

Right click on the program, run as administrator.

Why would you want to run the image viewer as administrator anyway?


On topic:
Businesses have no reason to upgrade to Vista. They see things from a cost/benefit perspective. If Vista doesn't make them any more money, then they shouldn't upgrade. Plenty of business still have Windows 98 and older.
Edited by bruestle2 - 6/26/08 at 2:18pm
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I'm just a person that likes plain and simple things, not some fancy looking interface. That's why my XP is more 98 like in the interface (classical theme).

PS. Everyone says that "Vista is more stable", So the other thing is that I haven't had any stability issues (except when overclocking) with XP, so what's the point of upgrade then?
I completely agree.

A big selling point for Vista is that it looks better then XP and has all kind of sparkly and shiny stuff..........where's the off button for that junk!

Vista costs money, where as I already have XP that is running great for me. For a business you can't argue with that logic, unless that investment is going to make more money. Very unlikely when you consider how most of the business computers are used.

Not getting Vista because it costs money is also a very good argument for a consumer.
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I completely agree.

A big selling point for Vista is that it looks better then XP and has all kind of sparkly and shiny stuff..........where's the off button for that junk!
Go in to Windows Color and Appearance, and open classic appearance properties, then click 'basic' or 'classic' to disable the aero feature.
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