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I doubt it. SLI needs more bandwidth and PCI...doesn't have it. Plus does Nvidia even have drivers for a PCI version of a card? Not much of a point.
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I think to myself "Still legendary" and then i click the thread. i was actually suprised i was right, which is suprising.
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I checked out those pictures you sent me legendary, and i think it's cool that this company, even if they are unheard of, are supporting the PCI bus. In fact, that card will be very powerful in your system, but, as you have probably heard many, many times before, your CPU is going to bottleneck it like crazy.

But, unlike everyone else who tells you to upgrade, which even I have in the past, I am going to merely comment on this.

While SLI has been done in the past on PCI, it wasn't the same technology we have today, and had a different purpose. Yes, the paper in front of the card said it supported SLI, you can clearly see that there is no gold pin connector on the top of the card where an SLI bridge would run.

Also, in order for SLI to work, even if it could work on that bus, the Motherboard would have to meet the tech specs to run it, and would most likely require that you run an nvidia nforce board.

So, in conclusion, the hardware on the card you showed me does not seem to support SLI, and if it did, your motherboard itself would probably not support SLI.

However, it would be neat.
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C'mon Still legendary....

Buy 3 of them, put them in Tri-SLI and prove us all wrong! I'm waiting.....
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I doubt it. SLI needs more bandwidth and PCI...doesn't have it. Plus does Nvidia even have drivers for a PCI version of a card? Not much of a point.
I don't believe people are taking the time to make drivers just for new PCI cards, well visiontek is not. I know my 2400 Visiontek PCI card, looking in the driver list, it says Visiontek 2400 HD PRO PCI card alright, but when i try to install it, it says, this driver is not compatible with this card. Visiontek just made a new pci card, and put it out in the market without taking the time to care about it. Thats why the card sucks with playing games.

I told visiontek about the issue, they told me they are testing out new drivers, and once they are fully tested , we will release them. Yea right, i will be shocked to see them. Which is why i just put the card away until they do release it.
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Originally Posted by $till LegendaryU2K View Post
I don't believe people are taking the time to make drivers just for new PCI cards, well visiontek is not. I know my 2400 Visiontek PCI card, looking in the driver list, it says Visiontek 2400 HD PRO PCI card alright, but when i try to install it, it says, this driver is not compatible with this card. Visiontek just made a new pci card, and put it out in the market without taking the time to care about it. Thats why the card sucks with playing games.

I told visiontek about the issue, they told me they are testing out new drivers, and once they are fully tested , we will release them. Yea right, i will be shocked to see them. Which is why i just put the card away until they do release it.
AND YOU'RE GOING TO FIND THE SAME TO BE TRUE WITH ANY OTHER NEW GENERATION PCI CARD. That's what I've been TRYING to tell you!!! Manufacturer's don't care about the PCI bus anymore. In order to have decent playable framerates in game, you'd need to run Nvidia CERTIFIED drivers...and Nvidia WILL NOT be releasing PCI drivers for that card. PERIOD. NO IFS ANDS OR BUTTS ABOUT IT. You will be FORCED to use the Albatron drivers, and they're not very well known...so chances are, their drivers will suck as well. At least Visiontek is a known brand.
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as you have probably heard many, many times before, your CPU is going to bottleneck it like crazy.
no, the PCi bus is going to bottleneck it, then the CPU, then the SDRAM...
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NO IT IS NOT POSSIBLE TO SLI WITH THE PCI BUS.
Ahh emm, for get the voodoo2? Anywase, that card you woldnt be able to SLI, and as said previosly if it could there is no way your mobo could support it. Now one more thing...When I was in your shoes with an ancient computer a bit faster than yours (cpu wise at least) I dumpster dived and asked everyone and their parents if they say any pc out for trash, or if their place of work was throwing some out to give it to me. Youd be surprised what you can score by a little asking and dumpster diving, and all for the price of free.
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Buy a PGA370 board with AGP and put a HD3850 AGP Edition in.
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I checked out those pictures you sent me legendary, and i think it's cool that this company, even if they are unheard of, are supporting the PCI bus. In fact, that card will be very powerful in your system, but, as you have probably heard many, many times before, your CPU is going to bottleneck it like crazy.

But, unlike everyone else who tells you to upgrade, which even I have in the past, I am going to merely comment on this.

While SLI has been done in the past on PCI, it wasn't the same technology we have today, and had a different purpose. Yes, the paper in front of the card said it supported SLI, you can clearly see that there is no gold pin connector on the top of the card where an SLI bridge would run.

Also, in order for SLI to work, even if it could work on that bus, the Motherboard would have to meet the tech specs to run it, and would most likely require that you run an nvidia nforce board.

So, in conclusion, the hardware on the card you showed me does not seem to support SLI, and if it did, your motherboard itself would probably not support SLI.

However, it would be neat.
Well said. I was just curious about it, who knows what the final product of the card is going to be. The only New Geforce 8 PCI card which is fully showed is the 8500GT so far.

Also about my CPU bottlenecking PCI cards, i still do not agree with that. I have proven facts to back that up on the futuremark forums. Just information telling folks that PCI video cards are design for the sole purpose to run perfectly without problems on a PCI bus and a PIII computer. A PIII with 600mhz speed is not the greatest thing in the world, but its not weak either. With the right GPU , you can pretty much run anything, and having a faster CPU helps, but the CPU is not the main key to getting great performance.

Somethings are kinda confusing tho, for example. On Windows98SE my FX5500 ran better then it does on XP. However, my 6200 runs like crap on Windows98SE, but on XP its works perfect. Another example, TimeShift works "ok" on my 6200 PCI card, but runs almost perfect on my 2400, which btw can't run about 60% of all of my games. Last example, the 2400 can't run crysis i get 0fps when fighting the bad guys, but yet on the 6200 it runs better. With a PIII/600MHZ computer, you need a great card to get good results, on the other hand, doesn't matter what GPU you have, if you have a video card that doesn't have a stable supported driver, the card will not perform well. Thats the problem with the 2400 HD PCI card. My CPU is not bottlenecking the Card, the card doesn't have a supported driver, thus bad/terrible performance.

Believe me, i study this stuff all the time. Thats why when folks said my FX5500 wouldn't see a huge performance increase from the FX5200, i laugh because i knew i would see a performance increase and i did. All due to the right drivers.

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C'mon Still legendary....

Buy 3 of them, put them in Tri-SLI and prove us all wrong! I'm waiting.....
SLI sounds cool, but i am not really interested in it. I will only need one GPU in my new computer, not two. Also, i am not buying all 3 NEW 8 series PCI cards, i only plan to buy one. Which one, who knows. Right now, until the new 8 series comes out official or until i locate one, i am buying the Diamond Stealth X1550 128bit DDR2, 256MB PCI card soon.

Sorry to tell you this, but i am a PCI gamer. Just like being a hardcore sega fan, nothing has change, i am a die hard sega fan, you think something new is going to change that? Nope. Unlike some folks, i stay loyal to everything, my word, the things i do in life, etc. You get the picture, please understand..........

Peace
Edited by $till LegendaryU2K - 6/26/08 at 12:04am
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