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http://blogs.wsj.com/biztech/2008/06...de-from-venus/

I kinda wonder if thats really how it is.

I do logic in my head in a completely different way then most people in my classes. It may be that i cant explain things well.... but either way i feel that im the best in my class of 10 he... i guess i would fit in this category tho. I would make a crazy function that tends to work better then the other solutions.

Its a shame since its been so long since i have done any difficult code. I cant give any examples of some strange solutions i have done.
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That's kinda sexist. Without a large statistical sample, she shouldn't jump around yelling things like that.
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It's interesting, but I agree with Coma: it's sexist and stereotyped. I can't relate completely with the topic because in my computer science classes, there was only two girls at most in each.

Although, I did notice that the top programmer in my classes did act differently; ****y, I suppose. I don't think every "good" programmer is like this.
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I've been told by one of my profs. that females generally do make better programmers. Their logic usually flows better and they tend to think more about the people that will see the code later, so easier to read. Whereas males sometimes will make some piece of code so condensed/cryptic that for someone else its very hard to follow.
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That's kinda sexist. Without a large statistical sample, she shouldn't jump around yelling things like that.
Kinda sexist? LOL Only thing she could have said that would have made her more sexist would be "Guys suck at coding compared to girls...no offense of course"... She basically said that guys make things harder to show off, while females stick straight to the point.
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I've been told by one of my profs. that females generally do make better programmers. Their logic usually flows better and they tend to think more about the people that will see the code later, so easier to read. Whereas males sometimes will make some piece of code so condensed/cryptic that for someone else its very hard to follow.
Probably sat next to the writer too in class too. =P


Perhaps because there isnt much of a female collective of programmers that they tend to not notice it or be submerged in it like we have been.

I am only because my stepdad leads a group that designs motherboards. I had a computer that was without a case, laid out ontop of a Monopoly box. He would take a part from mine that he needed for a computer he was building, and i would look around the house for something that fits.

but then again... My Mom has a Computer Info Systems degree which i was originally gona get when i did a couple years in college...

My brother was a programmer in highschool and is now an Electrical Engineer doing programming. None of my friends know anything about computers or programming.

Either way, i was good at it, but i didnt wana work on a large scale project. I wanted to be given a task, spend a day to a week on it and be done with it for a while.
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Here is the meat of the article
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Women are more touchy-feely and considerate of those who will use the code later, she says. They’ll intersperse their code–those strings of instructions that result in nifty applications and programs–with helpful comments and directions, explaining why they wrote the lines the way they did and exactly how they did it.

The code becomes a type of “roadmap” for others who might want to alter it or add to it later, says McGrattan, a native of Ireland who has been with Ingres since 1992.

Men, on the other hand, have no such pretenses. Often, “they try to show how clever they are by writing very cryptic code,” she tells the Business Technology Blog. “They try to obfuscate things in the code,” and don’t leave clear directions for people using it later. McGrattan boasts that 70% to 80% of the time, she can look at a chunk of computer code and tell if it was written by a man or a woman.
This is, of course, a massive, uninformative, blatant generalization. To say that men don't comment code is ridiculous. She says she can guess with 70-80% accuracy if a man or woman wrote code. If you guess 'man' every time you will probably get better accuracy than that - it is an extremely heavily male dominated field.
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Here is the meat of the article


This is, of course, a massive, uninformative, blatant generalization. To say that men don't comment code is ridiculous. She says she can guess with 70-80% accuracy if a man or woman wrote code. If you guess 'man' every time you will probably get better accuracy than that - it is an extremely heavily male dominated field.
Agreed that this is crap. Developers code what is necessary. If the "clever" use of recursion improves performances or reduces code size, why shouldn't it be used? Also, developers sometimes don't NEED to make code friendly. Why should a developer care if the code is complex? Isn't that one of the points of Object Oriented Programming? Other coders shouldn't care what the code is... just want the input and output are. Further, how come she thinks that her company uses "new coding standards"? Almost all major development make use of comments, business specification, technical specifications, and archiving. I would say many developers already spend more time writing about their code than actually code.


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Men, on the other hand, have no such pretenses. Often, “they try to show how clever they are by writing very cryptic code,” she tells the Business Technology Blog. “They try to obfuscate things in the code,” and don’t leave clear directions for people using it later.
Oh, so women choose to not be cryptic when coding, but not in real life? It's a conspiracy!
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