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Last week we brought you a review on AMDs Radeon 4850. Pretty much it set a new standard in bang for your bucks in the mid-range segment of graphics cards. Leading mainstream performance at 199 USD, now that's something you can't beat. Or ... ?

See, AMD's biggest competitor in the GPU arena, NVIDIA, wouldn't be NVIDIA if they didn't adapt to the situation at hand and strategize to match the performance of AMD's lovely new little gem. In fact it was one, maybe two days before AMDs launch when we received some info that NVIDIA would be doing three things to react on the AMD Radeon HD 4850.

1. Release a new SKU under the label GeForce 9800 GTX+
2. Lower prices, GTX for 199 USD, GTX+ for 229 USD
3. Release a new driver boosting some extra performance

We already told you guys in our recent XFX GeForce 9800 GTX Black edition review that very soon we'd be reviewing that GTX+ card, and therefore today we will.

The GeForce 9800 GTX+ arrived here merely days ago, and although at 1st I'd figured that the card could not make that much of a difference, it seems that was a bit of a paradox. The card can do exactly that. See the GeForce 9800 GTX+ not only is a newly created SKU with some higher clocks, no the GPU die-size has been shrunk towards 55nm (which was 65nm). Now typically with a die shrink NVIDIA has a chance to optimize some inefficiencies from their previous build. Yes, NVIDIA pushed some efficiency levels in there. All I will say is that we just tested a very competitive card that can overclock incredibly. The rest I leave up-to you.

Obviously what we'll de today is focus on that Radeon HD 4850 performance, standard GeForce 9800 GTX performance and then compare it with this respin GeForce 9800 GTX+, and I have tell you, it certainly did not disappoint us.

Prices for mid-range just won't get any better than this anytime soon folks. Lovely isn't it ? Let's have a chat about the architecture, the good, the bad and then fire off the card at our test-suite, which recently was updated with some new game titles like Race Driver: GRID and Mass effect. Both just gorgeous titles.



One of the most stunning facts for the GTX+ however was the flexibility in overclocking. I means seriously, this was the real deal for sure, we boosted the already impressive 728 core, 1836 shader and 2200 MHz clock frequencies pretty easy towards an amazing 860 MHz on the core, 2133 in the shader domain and 2490 MHz on the memory. That instantly will add another 15-20% performance towards your framerate. So tweaking wise this also is a very interesting product.
Seems like the 4850 has some more competition. Although, since it isn't prices at $199 like the 4850, I don't see this card as being the winner.
Edited by ignite - 6/26/08 at 5:32am
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"Nvidia vs. ATi = Two monkeys throwing poo at each other"
At least the poo smells like flowers and end users are benefitting.
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"Nvidia vs. ATi = Two monkeys throwing poo at each other"
very expensive poo
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You know what is funny. I was thinking of RMAing my 8800GTS G92 that I bought two weeks ago and replace it for a 9800GTX at the same price I payed for the 8800GTS G92. But whats the point, the performance is basically the same.
    
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Was expecting more to be quite frank.

Yeah, it performs the same as a black edition 9800GTX, but the 4850 is still the same performance wise, give or take 2 fps, yeah ok its better in crysis, but we all know thats nvidia bias anyway.

$30 for 2 fps? Dont think so Nvidia.
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Was expecting more to be quite frank.

Yeah, it performs the same as a black edition 9800GTX, but the 4850 is still the same performance wise, give or take 2 fps, yeah ok its better in crysis, but we all know thats nvidia bias anyway.

$30 for 2 fps? Dont think so Nvidia.
that basiclly sums it up ... why spend more to get very little and a lot of heat
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Thanks for the find , Guru3d make good reviews.
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Was expecting more to be quite frank.

Yeah, it performs the same as a black edition 9800GTX, but the 4850 is still the same performance wise, give or take 2 fps, yeah ok its better in crysis, but we all know thats nvidia bias anyway.

$30 for 2 fps? Dont think so Nvidia.
you know what though... i don't care who payed off who, or who optomised their game for what company, i just want the higher frame rate. and if Nvidia pays people off to do it, then they did it.
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Hm - impressive but once again, I'm perfectly dandy with my 8800GTXs. Best. Investment. Ever.

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i just want the higher frame rate. and if Nvidia pays people off to do it, then they did it.
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