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Payback is a female dog.
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Seriously we need some DX10.1 support.....it's a shame that NVidia's influence on a large number of developers stifled the application of such a great feature.
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If it turns out to be true i'd like to hear ATI fanboys opinion on that, since they have always blamed nVidia for playing "dirty" when cooperating with game developers and now when ATI realized they need to do that would it mean that ATI will become a "dirty" player?
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Wow, he almost makes it sound like a good thing to bride a dev to optimize for your cards.

Funny people should say that the consumer wins. I fail to see how...if I have a Nvidia card then it will run like crap on ATI optimized games and the same with ATI cards on Nvidia games. It is basically splitting games up into two markets, which means if you want to play the game at full whack you will need to buy both ATI/Nvidia top range GPU's in order to play ATI/Nvidia games at full speed. Now I am not saying ATI optimized games will cripple Nvidia cards, but do you really want a bad gaming experience because the other company payed more!?

The consumer does not win from graphics companies having to bride devs. Shame it has come to this.

+1...this is ridiculous.so i buy me a nvidia 8600gts and beeing a low gpu an ati optimised game will decimate my gpu just because it's not ati??(same applyes if i were to have an ati card)...i hate this
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If it turns out to be true i'd like to hear ATI fanboys opinion on that, since they have always blamed nVidia for playing "dirty" when cooperating with game developers and now when ATI realized they need to do that would it mean that ATI will become a "dirty" player?
ATI can't become a dirty player until they actually get that support from makers

Once they do then who knows, maybe because both company are doing it they are both equally dirty but without any comparison (unless S3 goes nuts...) we probably won't be able to say they are dirty.
    
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post #17 of 27
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If it turns out to be true i'd like to hear ATI fanboys opinion on that, since they have always blamed nVidia for playing "dirty" when cooperating with game developers and now when ATI realized they need to do that would it mean that ATI will become a "dirty" player?
Always blamed Nvidia for playing dirty? ROFL they paid developers off and helped them program the games to work with their cards.......not only that but they stifled growth by effectively killing DX10.1 in Assassin's Creed and Vantage.Hopefully ATI will be able to at least have their hand in some game development.
I see no problem with a company working with devs on a game, but using market strength to remove new tech features from games just because you didn't want to spend the money on R&D is pretty lame IMO.
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Look at ATI Optimized games and check out the level of performance, if they can take optimization from nVidia they really have the victory.
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post #19 of 27
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Always blamed Nvidia for playing dirty? ROFL they paid developers off and helped them program the games to work with their cards.......not only that but they stifled growth by effectively killing DX10.1 in Assassin's Creed and Vantage.Hopefully ATI will be able to at least have their hand in some game development.
I see no problem with a company working with devs on a game, but using market strength to remove new tech features from games just because you didn't want to spend the money on R&D is pretty lame IMO.
And who said that developers are so eager to use DX10.1 in games? I mean DX10.1, as it was confirmed over and over again, brings only a couple of new features developers consider not so important and, to go further, all of these features can be run on DX10 hardware will a bit more complex coding. And then nVidia support some features of 10.1 on their hardware (check out some reviews, it's all in there) which are the most important in their estimation (we don't have complete list of these features cause nVidia don't want to give ATI this kind of intel, so they can use it against nVidia). Now for the Vantage part, what nVidia have to do with PhysX part here? nVidia card always were beaten by ATI counterparts in 3DMark benches, real game performance was other way around however. So how come they didn't buy off 3DMark authors to tune it before? So i really fail to see what nVidia has to do with it except for using what is there for their advantage. You should blame Futuremark and Futuremark only.

However, with all those nVidia hate going around for no good reason, it's hard to expect anything other than that ATI marketing crap from a guy owning ATI card. I personally think that ATI did really well with their HD 4 series, but it doesn't give a right to start basing slightly different approach of competition.
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Man, with Diablo 3 JUST being announced and knowing that ATI has teamed up with Blizzard.... beware nVidia... be VERY afraid.... two HUGE games probably next year that could have 10.1 and ATI logo.
    
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