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10k drives have always been a marketing gimmick.
...except that they perform better?

So if the marketing "gimmick" is better performance, your comment would be valid.
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...except that they perform better?

So if the marketing "gimmick" is better performance, your comment would be valid.

I still wouldn't buy one either way, better performance or not, the price is just ridiculous for what you get. My money is better spent elsewhere.
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I've been wondering, how does defragging work on solid state hard drives? Is it even necessary?
No. Unlike a traditional hard disk drive an SSDhas no moving parts. Which means even if you were to defrag the drive it wouldn't increase the performance of the drive since defragging a drive is designed to arrange the data on the drive so the access arm can get to it quicker and read it in one section of the drive instead of having to move to multiple portions of the drive.

In addition to having no benefit to the drive, defragging a flash drive can significantly decrease the life span of the drive since each time information is written to the drive the flash memory is degraded.
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Bah. While this may be technically true, it's not something that very many people are actually going to do.
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I still wouldn't buy one either way, better performance or not, the price is just ridiculous for what you get. My money is better spent elsewhere.
The joys of loading maps and spawning before anyone else.
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solid state is not good . limited life, limited write/read,etc.

WD is working on a 20,000 rpm drive to be better than ssd
     
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Having gone from 2 150GB Raptors in Raid-0 to 2 WD 640AAKS in Raid-0 I must agree DuckieHo. If you are building a gaming rig and want the best performance the Raptors or Velociraptor drives are a better choice. While the 640AAKS drives are fast, the Raptors were a bit faster in certain areas like Windows boot times and faster loading times in games.
post #28 of 45
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solid state is not good . limited life, limited write/read,etc.

WD is working on a 20,000 rpm drive to be better than ssd
They're 2 completely different things, but they share the same purpose - to store data.

It's a bit like comparing a wankel motor to a V8 - they both have their cons and pros.
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post #29 of 45
I'm pretty sure that he understands that, he was just saying that SSDs have short life spans and WD is working on a disk drive that may be faster than an SSD. Therefore, if we had a disk drive that was as fast as an SSD, we would have the best of both worlds.
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How is paying $300 for a 600+GB VelociRaptor that goes faster than any $500+ 32GB SSD a waste of money? It isn't. To pay $100 for lower seek times is one thing, but paying $400 for lower seek times, lower transfer rates, and lower capacity makes no sense for the vast majority of people.
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