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Has anyone else gotten these yet. It says that it is a 2165 pointer, but man I don't know if it will even meet the deadline. It is like an hour per %. It's crazy.
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Yes, I also hit this job and it seemed to take almost twice as long as a normal 1760 job
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Ouch, that sucks! I thought 5XXX units were reserved for GPU? Hmmm.

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100 hour project O.O ouuchhh
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It has actually leveled out now and it takes 51 min per % with an average of 638.42 PPD and completion time is 2d 17h 6mn and I am at 19%.
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Ya I just got this project yesterday and I don't like it.
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post #7 of 14
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It has actually leveled out now and it takes 51 min per % with an average of 638.42 PPD and completion time is 2d 17h 6mn and I am at 19%.
Hi Ben,

This will be the only "negative" I'll say in public about Stanford and "their" point system. I think they play games with it... They did it back with the 21XX series of Gromac WU's... Low points for time to take to complete e.g. 356 -408 points for 4.5 days of work. They've done it again with the recent versions of SMP WU's. I don't buy their "excuse" or logic for how they determine those points. Something seems way off to me or somebody does not know how to calculate averages....

Now they have these GPU2 WU's, going at ridiculous points per day... Go figure?? I think they manipulate the points to get people to fold for or on certain WU's... Those are my two cents...

And I agree with you whole heartedly. The current point structure for SMP's is bad, really bad... And a lot of folks are complaining once again on this site and Stanford's web site, just like a couple of years ago... They need to be more consistent in my book... If a 1,760 point WU can be completed in one day or less on a Quad, then a 1,920 WU that takes almost two days on the same rig should reflect 3,520 points - not the bogus 1,920 they've given it....

In the meantime, hang in there! :-)
post #8 of 14
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I would defiantly say it is aggravating. I run two SMP clients on my Phenom in VMware and each one typically averages 1600 PPD in FahMon. So that means I lose an average of 1000 PPD with each of these I run and it takes 3x as long to complete it with only about 1/3 more points. And as you said the new Nvidia GPU2 client is producing twice as many points (or more) as my 3870 and I didn't think it was twice as fast.

O well, it is all about the research anyway, screwed up points system or not.
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post #9 of 14
The 5102 is 3340 points now... So even though it takes a bit of time (ahem), it's worth it.

Chewing on one right now.

And it's not unreasonable that stanford 'promotes' certain methods of folding. GPU2 is very powerful, and it's quite possible that it can tackle proteins that are difficult to handle with the other clients. In terms of research, the GPU2 might be in their best interest now.
    
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post #10 of 14
They are in bed with GPU manufacturers these days and have more or less given up on buggy smp since GPU folding is far better and easier for them.
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