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Here it is
.....holy.....!!

nv are desperate for 55nm, so when is it likely AMD-ATi taking steps towards 45nm, considering AMD-CPU have the technology now...
    
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The thing is 13 miles long!
    
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post #93 of 116
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Originally Posted by darkcloud89 View Post
I have a feeling I'm looking at the fastest consumer graphics card in the world at the moment...
Until next week when Nvidia releases a brand-new GTXKLASJDKLASD-8000 chip because conventional naming schemes seem impossible.

Then ATI will release a 5870x3 card

Then Nvidia will release a GTXKLASJDKLASE-8450

And then all of the world's software developers will jump off a very tall building...plunging to their death due to sheer frustration.
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Originally Posted by BonnJovi View Post
Until next week when Nvidia releases a brand-new GTXKLASJDKLASD-8000 chip because conventional naming schemes seem impossible.

Then ATI will release a 5870x3 card

Then Nvidia will release a GTXKLASJDKLASE-8450

And then all of the world's software developers will jump off a very tall building...plunging to their death due to sheer frustration.
and then there's asus, who like to keep the rivalry going, by making the rivalry within their own company

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Originally Posted by noone, this is just a theory
ATi Department of ASUS:
"oh really? 3870X2 not fast enough, how about a 3850 X3?"
NV Department of ASUS:
"oh really? 3850 X3, how about new 9800GTX TOP?"
are asus stoned lottery winners??
    
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.....holy.....!!

nv are desperate for 55nm, so when is it likely AMD-ATi taking steps towards 45nm, considering AMD-CPU have the technology now...
The AMD fabs and the TSMC foundry have nothing to do with each other, ATI chips are not made by AMD. They're made by TSMC.
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The AMD fabs and the TSMC foundry have nothing to do with each other, ATI chips are not made by AMD. They're made by TSMC.
wasn't 100% sure when posting, thankyou...

when would a shrink be likely for ATi? because this is the 2nd full series on the 55nm platform...
    
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Originally Posted by dark_eternal_knight View Post
wasn't 100% sure when posting, thankyou...

when would a shrink be likely for ATi? because this is the 2nd full series on the 55nm platform...
TSMC already has 45nm on their site so I guess they'd have that option soon. I'm not sure how fast they'd jump on that, though.
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also, AMD nor intel never branched at 55nm, does that mean theres another piece in the puzzle in terms of the GPU market unlike the CPU market? or is it just intel being too anal about sticking to moore's law?

cpu: 90, 65, 45, 32, 22
gpu: 90, 80, 65, 55, 45, 40??, 32, 28??, 22
    
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post #99 of 116
I wonder if ATI will make this a seamless dual-core video card, or whether you'll have to work through Crossfire to see any gains. It'd be cool to have a third processor that's there solely to divide the work between the 2 cores and recompile everything into one screen.... that'd be quite nice. No mucking around with crossfire or game profiles. If they did that, they could just keep releasing the same core over and over again. x3? x5? x8?

I can dream, right???
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post #100 of 116
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Originally Posted by Licht View Post
Go into device manager on an X2 and the OS indeed reads it as 2 chips. However CCC acts like it is one so users can more easily use it. (For example not needing to enable CrossfireX.)
If that's the case, I wonder if that doubles the number of GPUs CF can have. If a 4870X2 acts as one GPU, then putting it in CF means having 4 GPUs and putting it in CFX means 8 GPUs! Yeah... that's just wishful thinking......

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Originally Posted by dark_eternal_knight View Post
also, AMD nor intel never branched at 55nm, does that mean theres another piece in the puzzle in terms of the GPU market unlike the CPU market? or is it just intel being too anal about sticking to moore's law?

cpu: 90, 65, 45, 32, 22
gpu: 90, 80, 65, 55, 45, 40??, 32, 28??, 22
The CPU industry follows something called "International Technology Roadmap for Semiconductors," which is a roadmap that defines the process nodes. For unknown reasons, TSMC doesn't exactly follow the ITRS. They have all of the nodes, but they also introduce their own half-nodes. The half-nodes are generally 20% smaller than the main-node. I can see that since AMD doesn't have the financial freedom to upgrade their fabs to half-nodes but I would think that the end result should justify it since they would get more dies and better thermals. I have no idea why Intel doesn't do it. They have more financial resources than anyone.
    
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