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What do you think?
They will respond with their usual. Mudslinging, Misrepresentation of Facts, etc...
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They can improve their Phsyc drivers to the max, trying to get every little advantage they can get. Not much they can do...
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This of course is all moot, if the 4870X2 fails or hits the shelves at > $600.
Moot

$500 4870X2 means Nvidia has to slash prices.
I think we will be seeing $480 GTX280s soon, and I want an $80 8800gt for SLI
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ok so GTX280 is a single GPU card and 4870X2 is dual........how is this a comparison? naturally the 4870X2 will be faster....
    
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ok so GTX280 is a single GPU card and 4870X2 is dual........how is this a comparison? naturally the 4870X2 will be faster....
one GPU or two it's still just one card. No matter how Nvidia slings the turds, the only way they could get around it would be to say... We have the most powerful single GPU, single PCB card around, though it costs more than our competitors dual GPU, single PCB card that outperfoms our card, it's better because it has one womping hot, power hungry 65nm GPU core on it.

Whether Nvidia likes it or not, ATI has proven they can make a dual GPU/single PCB card work well and Nvidia's "dual GPU/dual PCB" cards have been tragic.
    
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ok so GTX280 is a single GPU card and 4870X2 is dual........how is this a comparison? naturally the 4870X2 will be faster....
The problem is if nVidia created a card 280GX2, it likely wouldn't be as fast as the 4870X2 due to the new link between the two cores. =3
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ok so GTX280 is a single GPU card and 4870X2 is dual........how is this a comparison? naturally the 4870X2 will be faster....
We're talking about how Nvidia will try to counter the 4870X2.

Anyway, I don't think Nvidia can, or will be able to legitimately beat the 4870X2 without the launch of a new series (and the GTX2x0's are still brand new), or the launch of a GTX280X2, which other people have already stated why a GTX280X2 would fail horribly, even if it did happen.

I think the only thing Nvidia can really do is hope that the drivers for the 4870X2 are a complete disaster.
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If I was Nvidia, I would put out a product that is ahead a generation that they have been working on.
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ok so GTX280 is a single GPU card and 4870X2 is dual........how is this a comparison? naturally the 4870X2 will be faster....
Its down to price/performace and form factor... No matter how you look at there are still alot of single PCIe mobos out there and alot of n00b that know nothing of crossfire or sli... So when you can sell a single card to install in a single PCIe slot that out performs a more expensive card it will sell better [PERIOD]...

So the comparsion is price to performance and number of PCIe slots required...

And good to say for all consumers ATI has taken the lead and done it with a cheaper card...

And nVidia will do something about it, even if they sell their products at near cost prices... (Great for US!)

Holding onto market share in is way more important than short term profit. Market share gives them pull with game developers (allowing them to force their phyxs only approach on us), if you currently have nVidia and know how they work and how to OC them you are more likely to purchase another (if price\\performace is equal to the reveals), its called brand loyality. Look what Toyota is doing with Scion. It works you buy a scion and get hooked you go back and buy a toyota, later you go back and buy a lexus. Scion made little profit but Toyota did great as a whole.
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