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It will remedy nothing. A single 4850 overclocked is neck and neck with an overclocked GTX280. This is with simple water cooling:
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...25#post3099325
thats a nice overclock on water.
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It will remedy nothing. A single 4850 overclocked is neck and neck with an overclocked GTX280. This is with simple water cooling:
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...25#post3099325
9800GTX+ has already pulled ahead of the 4850 in early benchmarks, and for only $229 the average user that doesn't buy water cooling systems or do overclocking will lean towards nvidia again.

(Just speculation anyway, I defend nvidia to the end)
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9800GTX+ has already pulled ahead of the 4850 in early benchmarks, and for only $229 the average user that doesn't buy water cooling systems or do overclocking will lean towards nvidia again.

(Just speculation anyway, I defend nvidia to the end)
The problem with the 9800GTX is that it is already at its limits... a very good 65nm can OC to 800-850 at the most, and it is doubtful from past die shrinks that I've seen that the 55nm version will go a whole lot higher. From the looks of it, the 4850 is a MUCH better OC'er than the 9800GTX, although the 9800GTX is pretty good.
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The problem with the 9800GTX is that it is already at its limits... a very good 65nm can OC to 800-850 at the most, and it is doubtful from past die shrinks that I've seen that the 55nm version will go a whole lot higher. From the looks of it, the 4850 is a MUCH better OC'er than the 9800GTX, although the 9800GTX is pretty good.
Have you seen the specs of the + version?

http://www.bjorn3d.com/read.php?cID=1297
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i think from the pic above you can see why its only 40% yields

Ati 4870 twice as smaller so AMD gets around 70-80% good ones
and Intel is like 90% :O

but thats because graphics cards are more complex then CPU's

I'd pay i little more for a Evga 4870FTW id there was on

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It will remedy nothing. A single 4850 overclocked is neck and neck with an overclocked GTX280. This is with simple water cooling:
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...25#post3099325
Holy shazam dude... I can only imagine what the 4870 could do overclocked with better drivers... I want these cards!
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This ati vs nvidia competition really is good for us consumers, though. The prices keep coming down and down and down...
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post #28 of 58
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The 9800 GTX+ should remedy the situation.
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It will remedy nothing. A single 4850 overclocked is neck and neck with an overclocked GTX280. This is with simple water cooling:
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...25#post3099325
Only if it was that simple to pull off 920/1200 with a simple water cooling on a 4850. Are you saying we all at home can achieve this overclock no problem with a 4850 and a simple water cooling solution.

Have i seen a 9800GTX reach these speeds on a overclock on air sure.

For 24/7 910/2220/1260

http://shrani.si/f/1z/U9/cGW9X7V/snap2.jpg

So could the 9800GTX+ remedy the situation for this market area, course it could. I see Two great options there for sli and crossfire at a great price. A lot of guys out there that have a sli board and want a cheap upgrade without having to buy a new board the 9800gtx+ is a great solution.

Buying a new system well that's a different matter, the 4870 is the best option value for money on the market IMO.
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post #29 of 58
even though 10% might seem small this is really good for Nvidia the price of the GTX280 might drop $100
    
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Oh crap!



Nvidia so bit the big one on this release. I would almost venture to say the the GTX280 is as much fail as the 2900XT was (almost).
My thoughts exactly, lol. Wonder if a Q6600 instead of an E6750 would pull out more fps then that top GTX280

On the 9800GTX+ reviews...I don't believe any of them yet since the day they were first mentioning that they were going to go that way, the reviews started to come out. Me thinks damage control from the surprising 4850 performance.
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