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Probably because it will dry up his social life.
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What about the game concerns you?

I don't think I can pinpoint one big reason, and maybe it has a lot to do with it just being a very very small beta, but I just am not excited for the game. I'd say it's a list of things that worry me or I don't know if I like yet.

I don't know if I like the lack of a skill tree, it makes me feel like their is no uniqueness to building a smart character if you can just swap skills to do whatever setups are hot. One of the biggest problems is only 4 players. Personally I probably could think of 12 players I'd like to play with at the same time, not 4. I was hoping for an upgrade in the numbers, not a decline. I also don't know if I like the market place. I would have rather seen blizzard try and battle selling items a few steps higher, rather than selling out and trying to get a piece of that pie. I don't see any advantages to a system that makes so easy to get what you need if you are willing to pay. Maybe it's because I quit DII LOD long before the market / bots / ect took off, but the reason I kept playing then was because of that feeling of uniqueness, having a weapon someone didn't, having a very good character build that actually took you awhile to plan and level. Now all that I feel like will be gone. I'm not saying Diablo II didn't end up that way but when I played it certainly wasn't that developed or discovered. I really wonder/worry what the late game will be like as well.

I hope I'm wrong, I'd gladly rather enjoy the game as much as I did Diablo II, but I'm skeptical. Looking forward to Heart of the Swarm more right now, a lot more.
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I don't think I can pinpoint one big reason, and maybe it has a lot to do with it just being a very very small beta, but I just am not excited for the game. I'd say it's a list of things that worry me or I don't know if I like yet.
I don't know if I like the lack of a skill tree, it makes me feel like their is no uniqueness to building a smart character if you can just swap skills to do whatever setups are hot. One of the biggest problems is only 4 players. Personally I probably could think of 12 players I'd like to play with at the same time, not 4. I was hoping for an upgrade in the numbers, not a decline. I also don't know if I like the market place. I would have rather seen blizzard try and battle selling items a few steps higher, rather than selling out and trying to get a piece of that pie. I don't see any advantages to a system that makes so easy to get what you need if you are willing to pay. Maybe it's because I quit DII LOD long before the market / bots / ect took off, but the reason I kept playing then was because of that feeling of uniqueness, having a weapon someone didn't, having a very good character build that actually took you awhile to plan and level. Now all that I feel like will be gone. I'm not saying Diablo II didn't end up that way but when I played it certainly wasn't that developed or discovered. I really wonder/worry what the late game will be like as well.
I hope I'm wrong, I'd gladly rather enjoy the game as much as I did Diablo II, but I'm skeptical. Looking forward to Heart of the Swarm more right now, a lot more.

Blizzard is aware of people's concerns with the lack of a skill tree and that you can just swap skills. They are working on a system called Nephalem Valor that encourages you to stick with your current build.

I was pretty hesitant to embrace the 4 player limit as well but after thinking about it I actually like it. The spells that you use and the items that you're equipped with are now much more important. You can't just blindly throw your attacks/spells around because you have 7 other people in your party. It places more importance on each player in the game. That said, I'm also sure that I will have more than 3 friends that I will want to play with. It is a give and take.

It is better for Blizzard to embrace the marketplace as opposed to fighting it. There is nothing they can do about 3rd party websites such as d2jsp. These sites were a huge part of DII and they will still exist in DIII. Why fight it? They might as well embrace it and implement it directly into the game so players can have a better experience rather than visiting a 3rd party site. I'm also pretty sure that these sites existed while you were playing, you just didn't notice. You could do the same with DIII. If you don't want to use the marketplace then don't use it, no one if forcing you to.

All that said, you do have valid concerns. Just don't let them prevent you from trying the game, hopefully Blizzard/DIII will eliminate them. It would be a shame if you didn't try the game at all. smile.gif
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Blizzard is aware of people's concerns with the lack of a skill tree and that you can just swap skills. They are working on a system called Nephalem Valor that encourages you to stick with your current build.
I was pretty hesitant to embrace the 4 player limit as well but after thinking about it I actually like it. The spells that you use and the items that you're equipped with are now much more important. You can't just blindly throw your attacks/spells around because you have 7 other people in your party. It places more importance on each player in the game. That said, I'm also sure that I will have more than 3 friends that I will want to play with. It is a give and take.
It is better for Blizzard to embrace the marketplace as opposed to fighting it. There is nothing they can do about 3rd party websites such as d2jsp. These sites were a huge part of DII and they will still exist in DIII. Why fight it? They might as well embrace it and implement it directly into the game so players can have a better experience rather than visiting a 3rd party site. I'm also pretty sure that these sites existed while you were playing, you just didn't notice. You could do the same with DIII. If you don't want to use the marketplace then don't use it, no one if forcing you to.
All that said, you do have valid concerns. Just don't let them prevent you from trying the game, hopefully Blizzard/DIII will eliminate them. It would be a shame if you didn't try the game at all. smile.gif

Don't worry I'm not so close minded where I won't try the game and decide with the final product ( and probably many patches ). I already have a CE pre-ordered, and I will get a second copy for my girlfriend. It's just at this point the main reason I want it isn't the game itself, it's the fact that all my friends will play it. Something that I can't say about my true love Starcraft II ( hard to get into esp higher levels ).

So for that I'm sure D3 will be great. Also Blizzard made me happy as a long time SC fan for the most part with SCII, so I have faith they could do the same with DII to D3.
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Guys i'm just wondering how long this game takes to load levels and start the game.

I bought a new SSD and contemplating whether i should bother putting this game on my SSD if it doesn't take long at all to load levels and start games.

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To initially load your game after character selection, it was 10 or so sec, but that is likely more to do with server connection. Otherwise , no real discernible delay.
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I think the 4 person limit will be good. It's a lot harder to be carried and you have to know how to play with just 4 people. Should make the game play less of a zerg and more of a cooperative chess match.

I really hope there is enough content. The first 2 games were light on content, and even wow has been light on content over the years.

Lack of pvp at launch is gonna suck, but I understand why they have to do it.

One thing I hated in d2 was u were stuck with your skill tree forever frown.gif

The only way to defeat the outside websites and ebayers selling gear is to make it all BoP, but that would make some of the hard core ol skoolers angee.
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Guys i'm just wondering how long this game takes to load levels and start the game.
I bought a new SSD and contemplating whether i should bother putting this game on my SSD if it doesn't take long at all to load levels and start games.
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I haven't played the beta recently but I'm pretty sure it loads fast on my sig rig. I'd probably remember if I had long load times and things of the like. I wouldn't worry about that if I were you, SSDs are pretty small and Diablo is probably going to be a huge installation. Plus once games load the first time they are generally faster every time thereafter as long as your game is still open.

Reminds me of Dota 2. It takes a while to initially launch the game and then load into a game but its fast after the first time. I actually make sure to observe a game for a moment so it loads fast when I join an actual game. I think that made sense haha.

Edit - By the way it appears the barb has caught up to the wizard in the poll. o_O
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I think the 4 person limit will be good. It's a lot harder to be carried and you have to know how to play with just 4 people. Should make the game play less of a zerg and more of a cooperative chess match.
I really hope there is enough content. The first 2 games were light on content, and even wow has been light on content over the years.
Lack of pvp at launch is gonna suck, but I understand why they have to do it.
One thing I hated in d2 was u were stuck with your skill tree forever frown.gif
The only way to defeat the outside websites and ebayers selling gear is to make it all BoP, but that would make some of the hard core ol skoolers angee.

As far as content goes, it will be very similar to D2, except we will have one more difficulty level. A ton of content isn't what makes Diablo good, the fact that it's all replayable through the roof is the great part.

Making gear BoP would ruin Diablo. Diablo is about finding items and trading them. Nothing worse than finding a nice bow on a barbarian only to not be able to hand it to your demon hunter buddy.

I don't think I'd even play D3 if gear was BoP. :O
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BoP means..?
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