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"As a huge fan of Diablo 2 (and Titan Quest) I find myself disappointed with Diablo 3... Blizzard is making this game like an MMO for what is called a "Blizzard fan," not a Diablo fan. There are no attributes, thus no permanent character modification, no permanence to your decision-making in building your character... Blizzard has been removing features to make the game simpler, blockier, and more "user-friendly." No town portals, health potions, identification scrolls, etc." - P1060
"Nope. It's clearly designed for a casual audience. I don't want my hand held everywhere. You want auto stat points, auto skill levels and auto skill selection? Fine, but let advanced users select for themselves. If that leaves casual players in the dust, too bad." - Zeek8181

FYI, town portals and health potions are in the game.

I consider myself a true diablo fan and I absolutely love the beta so far. I actually like how you're able to try new skills without having to re-roll your character, it enables you to find the exact skills you like with the skill runes you like. I'd be very surprised if everyone ran around using exactly all the same skills. Not to mention the nephalem buff to discourage skill swapping. Anyway, time to get back to playing smile.gif
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FYI, town portals and health potions are in the game.
I consider myself a true diablo fan and I absolutely love the beta so far. I actually like how you're able to try new skills without having to re-roll your character, it enables you to find the exact skills you like with the skill runes you like. I'd be very surprised if everyone ran around using exactly all the same skills. Not to mention the nephalem buff to discourage skill swapping. Anyway, time to get back to playing smile.gif

The nephalem buff does nothing to discourage skill swapping, it only discourages changing skills for each different monster.

Theoretically the equipment is supposed to stop you from swapping skills; instead of +1 all skills, it will be skill specific, making your build suck if you change skills when equipped for a different skill set.
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"As a huge fan of Diablo 2 (and Titan Quest) I find myself disappointed with Diablo 3... Blizzard is making this game like an MMO for what is called a "Blizzard fan," not a Diablo fan. There are no attributes, thus no permanent character modification, no permanence to your decision-making in building your character... Blizzard has been removing features to make the game simpler, blockier, and more "user-friendly." No town portals, health potions, identification scrolls, etc." - P1060
"Nope. It's clearly designed for a casual audience. I don't want my hand held everywhere. You want auto stat points, auto skill levels and auto skill selection? Fine, but let advanced users select for themselves. If that leaves casual players in the dust, too bad." - Zeek8181

No idea what you're on about, but the game requires more skill and more thought than previous Diablo games. Less casual than those were.
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Originally Posted by Mkilbride View Post

No idea what you're on about, but the game requires more skill and more thought than previous Diablo games. Less casual than those were.

As far as skills and stats, it needs none. I guess they're trying to turn the focus purely to items.
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As far as skills and stats, it needs none. I guess they're trying to turn the focus purely to items.

That may be true with the current beta content, but I have a feeling that both skills and stats will take a much more important roll later on. Gear and the skill selection will be much more important when the monsters hit much harder, and learning how to pull monsters will be very important in the harder difficulties.

Good gear will make your character more survivable at the harder difficulty settings, but success will also greatly depend on how well you time your skill usage / skills chosen.

However, I do agree that Blizzard has removed a lot of the individual character build customization. (No attribute points to spend)
Edited by AtomicFrost - 4/15/12 at 11:35am
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post #2196 of 29862
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Originally Posted by Jinny1 View Post

"As a huge fan of Diablo 2 (and Titan Quest) I find myself disappointed with Diablo 3... Blizzard is making this game like an MMO for what is called a "Blizzard fan," not a Diablo fan. There are no attributes, thus no permanent character modification, no permanence to your decision-making in building your character... Blizzard has been removing features to make the game simpler, blockier, and more "user-friendly." No town portals, health potions, identification scrolls, etc." - P1060
"Nope. It's clearly designed for a casual audience. I don't want my hand held everywhere. You want auto stat points, auto skill levels and auto skill selection? Fine, but let advanced users select for themselves. If that leaves casual players in the dust, too bad." - Zeek8181

DIII cannot be an MMO because the player cap is 4. That alone invalidates that argument not to mention what the others have stated above. And as far as it being casual, just wait until you get to hell/inferno mode and PvP is added in a patch.
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The nephalem buff does nothing to discourage skill swapping, it only discourages changing skills for each different monster.
Theoretically the equipment is supposed to stop you from swapping skills; instead of +1 all skills, it will be skill specific, making your build suck if you change skills when equipped for a different skill set.

To be clear, Nephalem Valor discourages skill swapping as long as you have the buff active. You get the buff after killing a rare or champion pack of monsters and it stays with you until you change a skill or leave the game. So like you said you can still swap skills, its just discouraged after you get the buff. The thing is I can't imagine it being too difficult to join a different game and regain the buff if you don't like your current build. Maybe the buff can only be gained from tough packs of monsters though.
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Still haven't gotten a key someone willing to share? anyone? And I also just per-ordered too! Crazy how you don't get a key!
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Any one?
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You have TWO rep, zero trader rating, and are starting to spam the thread begging, I'm sure someone will definitely let you use their BNet account.

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Still haven't gotten a key someone willing to share? anyone? And I also just per-ordered too! Crazy how you don't get a key!

I've been here since 2004 and many people here have known me for years and I never got a PM. It's no surprise to me, many people have WoW and SC2 on their accounts. It's also against the terms, so if the person who is using your account does something and gets caught for account sharing, they could lose everything. It's a very risky thing for someone to lend their account, with no benefits for them, to a stranger.

Let's not try to turn this thread into beta account begging, ask once and move on. No reason to ask twice in under 2 hours.
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