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@PauloFilho25 @SofaLion You will be playing with NA in Diablo III. The SEA/ANZ/LA/NA region is 'The Americas'. We'll all be playing together

How will this work? Are we going to have people typing in Vietnamese in our games? D:
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Assuming this is directed to me, I said nothing about unlock progressions being improvements over each other, so there is no flaw in my thinking (regarding that at least). I can't pick frost hydra rather than lightning hydra when I gain a new slot. I have to take the one I'm given, in the order they're given, and my character, and every other character of that class, will have the exact same options. Even if it was changed to let me change the order they're received, at level 60, my character, and every other character of the same class will have the exact same options. At no point do I make a choice in character development.

Stop being retarded. Deciding what skills you have with what runes to compliment them in a battle is character development. The only difference is that in diablo 2 you weren't able to re-spec. By your logic every single barbarian I meet in PVP is going to use the exact same 9 skills with the exact same runes to compliment them. Obviously that is not the case and there will be actual advantages and disadvantages of certain skills and runes on top of that. It's not like in WOW where you have instant access to every skill, you must only pick 9.
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How will this work? Are we going to have people typing in Vietnamese in our games? D:

I hate when they do that. Yes probably in WoW I had people speaking other languages.
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I hate when they do that. Yes probably in WoW I had people speaking other languages.

I'm just glad I don't even plan on playing in public games.
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How will this work? Are we going to have people typing in Vietnamese in our games? D:
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I'm just glad I don't even plan on playing in public games.

Exactly this. The chat/social features in DIII are pretty bad, probably the worst part of the entire game. It kind of annoys me that Warcraft III's 10 year old features are better than DIII's. Full blown chat features and you could pick US East or West. It will be difficult to make friends let alone actually talk to people without organizing parties outside of the game. Like you said I'm just glad I won't need to worry about it.
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So... would you consider a hard top vs a convertible customization...? both are removable just as transmissions are all replaceable.

I'm pretty sure the hard top on an Eclipse isn't removable, at least not without torch and significant time. And I know for a fact i can't swap out my stick shift for an automatic to drive into the city, then switch it out again for the weekend. But keep trying to obfuscate by nattering at details of the analogy.
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I think you are missing a huge chunk of the "multiplication" Do you not realize how many different combinations of skills/runes there are between your allotted 6 skills and 3 passives? Let alone all of your gear is going to be directly calculated into whatever combination you decide on and it's effectiveness.

Not missing anything - multiply by zero and the result is zero. If I make no choices in which options I have available to me, and by extension, which options I don't, I had zero agency in developing my character. With agency in character development being an essential part of the genre for me, the number of options I have to pick from at a given time is irrelevant.

If Agency = X and Options = Z, and Agency = 0, X*Z=0 whether Z is 1 or 1000000.
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Would you rather actually see your barbarians beard grow instead of the developing the second act to it's fullest potential?

I don't know what you're trying to say here. I'll assume it is some kind of sarcasm and let it be.
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IMO there is not one game I can think of that is truly customizable. There are ALWAYS going to be specific builds that are better than others.

One build being more effective than another does not mean you didn't have choices or that it wasn't customizable. What works well or is enjoyable for one person isn't always going to be the same for another.
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It seems to me like you just completely misunderstand the genre while trying to rub it off on us, stop being a bigot and open your eyes, or just quietly drift into the mist.

Name calling and telling me to shut up? I understand the genre. I have things I like and expect about from it that differ from yours. I'm not trying to rub off anything on you, I'm responding with reasoned explanation to repeated attempts to stifle legitimate discussion with insults.

It is a forum, people express opinions. I've done so without insulting the people whose opinions that differ from mine, I'd appreciate it if others would do the same.
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I'm just glad I don't even plan on playing in public games.

I will do normals in public games but anything higher then that I will only do with friends.
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Stop being retarded. Deciding what skills you have with what runes to compliment them in a battle is character development. The only difference is that in diablo 2 you weren't able to re-spec. By your logic every single barbarian I meet in PVP is going to use the exact same 9 skills with the exact same runes to compliment them. Obviously that is not the case and there will be actual advantages and disadvantages of certain skills and runes on top of that. It's not like in WOW where you have instant access to every skill, you must only pick 9.

de·vel·op·ment - [dih-vel-uhp-muhnt]
noun
1. the act or process of developing; growth; progress:

What you're describing isn't development, it is selection. Choices during development means choosing which options you possess as you progress. You never make a choice as to which skill or rune you get when you level.

Yes, you don't have instant access to all skills available to you and every character of your level, you have 15 second access to all skills.
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How will this work? Are we going to have people typing in Vietnamese in our games? D:

I don't see how this would be a big deal. It seems like most of the players in D2 on US East are in Québécois French some nights.
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How does letting everyone use any skill of the class restricting choice? It's doing the exact opposite. Everyone is free to try their interesting and innovative build once they find the item that gives them an idea. This is promoting build diversity, not killing it. It takes some time to get used to, but it actually makes more and more sense the more you read about it, and the more you use it.
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