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Can someone explain STRENGTH for me? I understand if i remember correctly, it does 300% of damage or something? I'm not getting that. I have a level 36 barbarian that has Damage : 420. What does that mean? Whenever I slash at an enemy I don't see 420 damage done, not even close. I'm hitting them for around 150-300 if that. And if I have 400 STRENGTH, 300% of 420? That doesn't make any sense, it would be in the thousands.
I have a duel wield setup, 1 mace and 1 sword.

I feel this question hasn't been answered.

Let's say you have a weapon with 90-110 damage (100 average) and you have 300 str.

(assuming no other + damage rings etc) your average damage is 100 x 300% = 300 / hit .

Then your abilities are counted, ie something does 150% weapon damage, which means you should hit for ~450 (need to confirm this is multiplicative; however, this is how I understand it.
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LMAO! biggrin.gif
i agree, many times i find the MAGICAL items sold by NPC or drops to have better and more useful stats than the Yellow RARES that drops
with stupid stats for example +199 intelligence on a single hand crossbow ! rolleyes.gif
well at least it's going to be a very intelligent DH tongue.gif

ya, dont you just wish you could make use of that intelligence yourself after you equip that crossbow onto your very own DH?


then it'll be like who the hell cares about dex crossbows?? get them intel crossbows man!! you can kite and react better with it!! lol
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Whats better for wiz 1h Wand or 2h Staff?
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Whats better for wiz 1h Wand or 2h Staff?

it depends on the stats... 2hand weapons are going to have more enchantments on them, than 1hand... however, i have yet to see a 2hand outperform a proper 1hand with offhand focus... if they are both rare, you are looking at 6 enchantments between the both of them...

in short... yes there are good 2hand weapons out there. whether or not they are good for you, really depends on what you are currently using.

EDIT - my 38 wiz is currently using a 1hand axe and offhand focus... you arent necessarily confined to using wands and staves, i dont think i've ever found a wand that was better than whatever i was currently using.
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Whats better for wiz 1h Wand or 2h Staff?

Whatever you can find that has the highest dps. This includes swords, maces, crossbows.... anything a wiz can equip. Don't forget to account for the offhand damage boost from focus if you use a 1h weapon. Also, vit and int help, but may not be required depending on where you are in the game. Weapon speed also has an effect on cast speed, but that’s personal preference.
Edited by Myrtl - 5/22/12 at 9:41am
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Whatever you can find that has the highest dps. This includes swords, maces, crossbows.... anything a wiz can equip. Don't forget to account for the offhand damage boost from focus if you use a 1h weapon. Also, vit and int help, but may not be required depending on where you are in the game. Weapon speed also has an effect on cast speed, but that’s personal preference.

that's actually something i've been pondering about

i figure the Left hand (character right hand) is the main weapon, where all the important stats counts
but what about the 2nd hand weapon, when it dual wields another weapon, how do those stats stacks with the first weapon?
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that's actually something i've been pondering about
i figure the Left hand (character right hand) is the main weapon, where all the important stats counts
but what about the 2nd hand weapon, when it dual wields another weapon, how do those stats stacks with the first weapon?

If you hold two weapons, it averages the DPS, but you get 10 percent added attack speed or something. If it works like Diablo 2, in the game you will alternate which weapon actually attacks... but the overall DPS would end up being the average between the two anyways.

So if your second weapon isn't that great, it will lower your DPS compared to having the second hand empty.
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Hell isn't even hard I solod it with my barb now the problem is inferno act 2 and im not talking about act 1 which I also solod.

If you don't mind me asking, what kind of skills are you using? Currently on my barb I roll with cleave, whirlwind, ground stomp, battle rage, war cry, and revenge. For passives I've got inspiring presence, bloodthirst, and juggernaut.

I find myself running away from champion packs in Act 3 nightmare frown.gif
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If you hold two weapons, it averages the DPS, but you get 10 percent added attack speed or something. If it works like Diablo 2, in the game you will alternate which weapon actually attacks... but the overall DPS would end up being the average between the two anyways.
So if your second weapon isn't that great, it will lower your DPS compared to having the second hand empty.

hmm... so i should really focus more on DPS rather than Attack Speed when both weapons are held

because i've been sacrificing some DPS in favour of more Attack Speed say 2% or more

as most weapons has slower attack speed like 1.2% or 1% or 1.4%

so some times i combined a very good high DPS 1.x% ATS weapon with a very fast 1.75% or 2.0% ATS weapon with lower DPS, and that seems to work pretty well in actual game combat


but that's why i was still in doubt, as the math in the game overall seems to be all totally out of whack

just like the Lucky find (magic find) stacked, and Gold drop stacked, and many other attributes too


I forgot where, but on one of the many many blogs/reviews of D3 i read, they did mention that even a 1 or 2 point change in D3 does make a difference, unlike D2

so, in that sense, the reviewer is right

because back then in D2, you can stack all the gold drop, or all the magic find to 100% and you still wouldn't make much of a difference

neither does 1 or 2 attack speed, or freeze, or heal


Anyways still trying to get the hang of the new "math" system whatever it is LOL tongue.gif
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If you hold two weapons, it averages the DPS, but you get 10 percent added attack speed or something. If it works like Diablo 2, in the game you will alternate which weapon actually attacks... but the overall DPS would end up being the average between the two anyways.
So if your second weapon isn't that great, it will lower your DPS compared to having the second hand empty.

I am pretty sure you do alternate your weapons when you hit even though the displayed dps is averaged out. If you watch your attack speed in the detail info sheet, you can see it change every time you swing (as long as both weapons don’t have identical atk spds). Also, I thought it was a 15% ias for duel wielding.
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Anyways still trying to get the hang of the new "math" system whatever it is LOL tongue.gif

We all are trying to get a handle on how the math works out. I know I am still trying to figure out how dodge % and shield block % work together.
Edited by Myrtl - 5/22/12 at 10:59am
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