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As much as I love this game, I must say I hate this online rubbish (im not ranting on just saying) really wanted to play a bit tonight after a hard days work - no, we're doing maintenance.

There must be better ways Blizzard.

Anyways, back to discussing the good things about it.
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The ah is killing this imo already.
Most people say the replayability in this comes from grinding gear, well that's been made pointless now you can buy amazing cheap items on the ah.

Every time I start to struggle I just pop over to the ah and buy some cheap op items and it feels like normal mode again.
Currently playing a barb, act 1 hell atm. Changed from a wd that I had in hell, it was really boring imo.
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U build the staff that gets u normal mode.
Then u get the plan for NM, then buy the upgrade of 200,000g
Then Hell 500,000g and plan
Then Inferno 1,000,000g and plan
Hope this helps figure things out.
Since work blocks gamer forums this is all I got, any body down for a Trade thread?

this is the way i did mine too. i made the staff in normal mode, then bought the upgrade tome from a merchant at the bastion for 1 gold (you need to be at the diablo boss fight before you can buy the plans). the only requirement for upgrading the staff is your normal staff + gold.

also, yeah id like to see a trade thread. i'd want to sell items to ocn members first before dumping it in AH.
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Yeah but it means just 2 percent have even killed hell diablo, the rest haven't done that yet.
I'm not too surprised, simply because most people don't have that kind of time. I've only made it to act 2 nightmare, not because of difficulty but because of play time.
I'm sure once schools out all the school kids will at least unlock inferno, making those numbers much higher.

same here, really trying to finish normal to play nightmare but i barely have any time

my in game log time is not even 24hr yet

also i take my time to explore every little corner to find loots and elite / yellow mobs to kill for drops

also like those random "events" when you come across random NPC that some times appears in game with a short quest, which also usually produces some sort of Rares drops biggrin.gif
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Hell, is actually Hell...So, I'm really not shocked.
Most people have also been farming for the AH...
Inferno actually takes some serious skill and Hell isn't exactly "easy mode"...

I was able to solo the first act of Inferno with ~15-20k dmg on my wizard, it went up as I progressed. This is of course with the force weapon which adds 30%. I have so many things to sell on AH, but with only 10 auctions and it being down half the week end. I am just filling up my bank.
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I know I'm the enemy when I say this but, it has to be said.
Blizzard has put well over 3-5m into new servers...As I've mentioned before, this isn't some hack job that was thrown up yesterday...These are new, enterprise work servers...In fact, even more are going in today...Thus, the 8 hour maintenance.
Diablo 3 requires a certain up/down atm...If your upload flickers, even for a second below minimum requirements, you will experience the above issues.
The same was/is true of SWTOR, if your upload flickers, you will experience extreme lag and when/if it recovers, you'll more than likely be dead.
In that situation, it's not their fault...That is purely the fault of your provider.
As I've mentioned previously, with MOST providers, you're not actually guaranteed an upload and the do //flicker// often based on population load.
Cox, Charter and Time Warner were the WORST ISP's to deal with when I worked with SWTOR because they REFUSED to acknowledge and/or guarantee ANY definable upload...In fact, Cox said and I quote, "It's only our job to guarantee a download stream, if they can't upload anything, that's their problem."
Bioware eventually toned down the necessary up and streamlined their servers but, they did so at a major loss...It's not worth my explaining the loss here but, Blizzard faces the same issue...
Do you suffer loss in order to accommodate everyone or do you require a minimum up...?
So your 20meg cable...I'm sorry but, you have no guaranteed up, thus you're at the mercy of your ISP, just as everyone else is.
I'm on fiber and twice in the past week, my up has dropped below D3's required upload...FIBER.

I am on a dedicated line with 1.5mb up, but still have issues during peak hours. Sunday night for about an hour or two it was 300-400 MS, but settled down after that. I checked to make sure, and my connection to Nashville was fine, but that doesn't mean it is server side, there could always be an issue in between.
 
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I was able to solo the first act of Inferno with ~15-20k dmg on my wizard, it went up as I progressed. This is of course with the force weapon which adds 30%. I have so many things to sell on AH, but with only 10 auctions and it being down half the week end. I am just filling up my bank.
I am on a dedicated line with 1.5mb up, but still have issues during peak hours. Sunday night for about an hour or two it was 300-400 MS, but settled down after that. I checked to make sure, and my connection to Nashville was fine, but that doesn't mean it is server side, there could always be an issue in between.

Yeah, I'm not saying they're infallible...I mean there are/have been issues...Especially in regards to AT&T + Blizzard so, I'm sure there are a few hickups...But, in the next few weeks, once they have the hubs ironed out etc...It won't exactly be their error/fault anymore...That's my point.

There are issues during peak load atm but, that's normal when you have new servers on a new base...You need to find what works for you and what doesn't...That takes some time...

When they do figure that out, though...The same people that have issues now, will still have their ISP's to contend with and it needs to be known that under the vast majority of plans, regardless of your line, you're not actually guaranteed an up...At all.

Like I said, I'm on fiber, I live 1m physically from my provider's hub and during peak hours, I dip sometimes below required upload...Has happened in SWTOR more than a few times...That's not Blizzard's fault...And unfortunately, no amount of screaming/yelling and/or calling has EVER fixed this...It's how it is.

The AH is actually kind of craptastic because it's freeloading on WoW's servers which is why you see a flicker/pause and it take an extra 5-10s to do anything...I absolutely agree that, the AH issues need to be addressed..
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This lag you speak of, are you sure it's not the slow HDD read issue? Do you have the game installed on your SSD, or your 7200rpm HDD?

it's on my SSD
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I know I'm the enemy when I say this but, it has to be said.
Blizzard has put well over 3-5m into new servers...As I've mentioned before, this isn't some hack job that was thrown up yesterday...These are new, enterprise work servers...In fact, even more are going in today...Thus, the 8 hour maintenance.
Diablo 3 requires a certain up/down atm...If your upload flickers, even for a second below minimum requirements, you will experience the above issues.
The same was/is true of SWTOR, if your upload flickers, you will experience extreme lag and when/if it recovers, you'll more than likely be dead.
In that situation, it's not their fault...That is purely the fault of your provider.
As I've mentioned previously, with MOST providers, you're not actually guaranteed an upload and the do //flicker// often based on population load.
Cox, Charter and Time Warner were the WORST ISP's to deal with when I worked with SWTOR because they REFUSED to acknowledge and/or guarantee ANY definable upload...In fact, Cox said and I quote, "It's only our job to guarantee a download stream, if they can't upload anything, that's their problem."
Bioware eventually toned down the necessary up and streamlined their servers but, they did so at a major loss...It's not worth my explaining the loss here but, Blizzard faces the same issue...
Do you suffer loss in order to accommodate everyone or do you require a minimum up...?
So your 20meg cable...I'm sorry but, you have no guaranteed up, thus you're at the mercy of your ISP, just as everyone else is.
I'm on fiber and twice in the past week, my up has dropped below D3's required upload...FIBER.
I've got BrightHouse if that matters, I don't know what 'better' would be. it's either comcast/brighthouse/dsl where I am at, I don't think Comcast would be any better. I'm not mad at Blizzard.. some of it's gonna be the high volume it has for being so new. It's just the point of a lot of people are quick to say all/most is caused by people's internet when that's simply not the case. My internet is more than enough for lagfree Starcraft 2, I don't see why Diablo would require better internet. it's not that I'm comparing it to any one certain game, I've played many games online with same net/computer and I've yet to lag, especially a few times a day like i do in D3.
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it's on my SSD
I've got BrightHouse if that matters, I don't know what 'better' would be. it's either comcast/brighthouse/dsl where I am at, I don't think Comcast would be any better. I'm not mad at Blizzard.. some of it's gonna be the high volume it has for being so new. It's just the point of a lot of people are quick to say all/most is caused by people's internet when that's simply not the case. My internet is more than enough for lagfree Starcraft 2, I don't see why Diablo would require better internet. it's not that I'm comparing it to any one certain game, I've played many games online with same net/computer and I've yet to lag, especially a few times a day like i do in D3.

...It does.

This is the year 2012...Where the Nginx base is pioneering a new world of possibility and along with some other bases I could mention right now, requires a constant stream of data.

WoW, requires next to no upload...In fact, you can literally go 30s without any upload to the host server...This isn't WoW.

SC2 takes very little upload because you're actually communicating directly via your opponent/host to the network and largely it does this directly...There are maybe 10 responses in a given period...Easy peasy.

Diablo 3 requires somewhere of 10 responses/second compared to SC2's 1 response/second...That's a MAJOR change in server communication.

When your upload dips under that response requirement...The server actually loses you because of how much information you're sending the server...

SWTOR and Blizzard face an issue where, on any new server base, you require a constant stream of data...In fact, MANY new games, Tera included, are facing this issue because your providers don't feel that a guaranteed up is necessary.

Internet providers up until now, have gotten away with giving you nothing because you never really needed it...Well, like I said, it's the year 2012 and for new tech, you do.

So, thus ends my edumacation on why a dedicated upload is necessary w/new tech compared to older games.
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Trade thread Started : http://www.overclock.net/t/1263142/diablo-3-official-trading-post

Hope this helps.

I know I've been wanting one.

Started with something simple, I'll update with a ton of gear tonight from hell/inferno/gems
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...It does.

so what do i do about it?
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