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Okay guys, let's try and keep this on topic please. I understand some of it has to do with players getting their accounts hacked, however last I checked, this was the Diablo III Information and Discussion Thread. Not the How to get around MAC address spoofing and finding the location of a keylogger via their IP Thread.
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Actually, this is not true.
While I was an admin at Alienware, I had several people attempt to DDOS us...When I called their ISP and even threatened a lawsuit, I was given the full 9 yards.
It's no longer as much of a legal obligation as it used to be...
Back in 04/05 it was lock/key...Needed a lawyer etc...Now, if you're actually a respected/"approved" individual, all you do is ask. ~ Obviously there is a protocal and a reasoning but, when that's challenged, legitimately, the ISP will actually disclose ALL relevant information to the party based on relevancy.
All 4/5 script kiddies that attempted to hack us, actually settled BECAUSE their ISP's were so diligent in providing the information...
So, it's really not a waste of resources and all Blizzard would have to do would be to file a formal inquiry with that ISP.
If they //DIDN'T//, especially in the case of the RMAH, they would actually be breaking the law and violating your rights of due process...They also have to file with the ISP, FBI et al in a case of where their network is/was compromised and you've been legitimately hacked or, again, they're breaking the law and violating your rights.
Considering they're in bed with AT&T long term w/the WoW routers...You better bet on your ISP selling you out instantaneously...It's 2012, not 1999.

Masked I've respected your knowledge (and learned quite a bit) since I actively read the SWTOR thread, so thanks for some additional information on the subject. I still think my point is at least partially valid, since you worked for a company and pushed for info, they'd of course give you the whole 9 yards. My line of reasoning, however, went back to HardwareDecoder's post about he himself getting a subpoena for the IP, and in that case, I still think my point is valid about the ISP not giving him the info over a Diablo 3 account hacking. Now if Blizzard called them, then yeah, the ISP would do something, they're a multi-million dollar company, not a single person with no affiliation.

I'm not saying ISP won't provide the info in a legal case, of course they will, but not to just anyone.

EDIT: To stay on topic... I've barely played much (friend bought it for me so we could play some before he left on deployment.) Got a Wizard at 18, and a DH at 5. Liking the Wizard more than I thought I would. I typically hate playing casters in RPGs.
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Okay guys, let's try and keep this on topic please. I understand some of it has to do with players getting their accounts hacked, however last I checked, this was the Diablo III Information and Discussion Thread. Not the How to get around MAC address spoofing and finding the location of a keylogger via their IP Thread.

C'mon, we're just massaging our respective "your user name here"...
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Now about them demon hunting... tongue.gif
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Nobody has legitimately reported being hacked with the mobile authenticator. If they did they lie and usually add it after they were hacked or they are using a dial-in authenticator which only works for WoW. Also I am pretty sure Blizzard would report if their security infrastructure was breached because they are legally required too
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Masked I've respected your knowledge (and learned quite a bit) since I actively read the SWTOR thread, so thanks for some additional information on the subject. I still think my point is at least partially valid, since you worked for a company and pushed for info, they'd of course give you the whole 9 yards. My line of reasoning, however, went back to HardwareDecoder's post about he himself getting a subpoena for the IP, and in that case, I still think my point is valid about the ISP not giving him the info over a Diablo 3 account hacking. Now if Blizzard called them, then yeah, the ISP would do something, they're a multi-million dollar company, not a single person with no affiliation.
I'm not saying ISP won't provide the info in a legal case, of course they will, but not to just anyone.

Oh yeah, I'm just trying to address the misconception that an ISP won't jump through hoops in regards to Blizzard (This is a major topic over there so, I figured I'd kill 2 birds...)...But, in general, there also seem to be some huge discrepancies with how/why that happens.

HD could NOT call his ISP and actually even receive a response...This simply isn't an option open to the general public...You don't even know what needs to be filed much less, actually know the COP (Chain of protocol) in regards to getting an IP...So, short of his lawyer making the call and filing formally, that's not happening.

If you're a manufacturer or vendor, holding people's general credit information and you are hacked...There's actually an entire legal protocol that follows because you've actually started a chain effect that, obviously most people don't even realize exists until it happens. ~ The FBI takes that VERY seriously.

For example, if I was hacked on my home server and my customer's information was compromised...Legally, I have to report that tomorrow morning to the FBI in regards to my due diligence or, I've violated their rights...

This is how you KNOW that Blizzard hasn't been compromised yet...If they had, they have a legal obligation to //ALL// of us that they would be in breach of and that's actually a lawsuit, they'd never win, no matter the school of lawyers they throw at it, they're violating your core rights in regards to being a consumer.

Now, an ISP, this is more of a recent occurance, then not...Will actually provide you (Barring you're a legitimate source) with information if you follow the protocol...Obviously you need a legitimate reason and cause, have to file that information, etc...But, they finally figured out that it costs a TON less just to give it to you, legitimately, then involve the lawyers.

In some cases, you still do need a lawyer but, for the most part, if you're the admin/owner of a company and you're being hacked by so-and-so, they'll provide you with that information. ~ It's all about the $$$$.

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I'm actually having a great time farming Inferno...I sell practically everything I get...Have made over 2-3m in the past week...I see this lasting for years to come.

My only complaint is the idiots that are asking 10m+ on some of these items...They're seem to be droves of them.

Why pay 10m for a 1200dps bow when I can buy the same thing for 5m? ~ Ughhhh.
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I've barely played much (friend bought it for me so we could play some before he left on deployment.) Got a Wizard at 18, and a DH at 5. Liking the Wizard more than I thought I would. I typically hate playing casters in RPGs.

The Wizard is great, man. I'm having zero troubles at all soloing all of act 1 on Inferno, but Act 2 currently is a different story. It's like night & day difficulty difference between those two acts.
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refresh to see if someone knows.
also....
you're a level 60 doing this on Nightmare level? just making sure you didn't mean Hell... that's quite a lot of money for so easy if it is on NM, I may just switch to Zombie dogs and walk thru it quickly if so. might even pick up something useful for my lower chars smile.gif
yes level 60 going throught nightmare. Start Heart of sin quest then waypoint to the bridge. Then just run through till you beat act 3. I made BANK. All i did was make sure every piece of gear on my character had +GF +MF... but with valor buff x5 gold drops are between 500-1000g and you find tons of rares to sell. I literally made between 150-200K in an hour or less
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if someone hacks my account I will get a subpoena for the IP of whoever logged on to my account I posted about this before, it is in fact a federal crime to breach computer systems. Blizzard does not have a choice whether or not to hand over the IP information or not. PERIOD.
How do I know? Degree in Criminal Justice. thumb.gif
Except for when you find out that the source is out of country. Then your screwed because feds have no jurisdiction, even on a related case, outside of the country without the cooperation of the foreign government involved. Think we have time and money for feds to be tracking down ips of little asian (assuming its coming from the continent with the highest human population and not to be racist) hackers so that american citizens can have their level 60 witches and wizards fantasy gear secure? ... I wish that were feasible, but this is definitely something law enforcement is not going to look twice at unless there is actual bank account/credit card/personal identity being stolen. How do I know? Career in criminal justice wink.gif BUT, if you were referring to just being able to do the investigation yourself and take the law into your own hands... then that would be possible. Although it IS a federal crime, its definitely on the lowest of the low end of priorities unless real [important] information is being stolen.
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