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Poll Results: What class will you play first when the game is released?

 
  • 25% (281)
    Barbarian
  • 20% (227)
    Demon Hunter
  • 17% (188)
    Monk
  • 13% (142)
    Witch Doctor
  • 22% (245)
    Wizard
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To list an item on the RMAH I noticed my cc was charged $1. If my item doesn't sell do they refund me the $1?
post #8032 of 14938
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Originally Posted by Crazy9000 View Post

I took a look at the RMAH, and even if you want to use it, it seems a better idea to go with the gold AH and buy gold from a farmer lol. Probably save quite a bit of $ that way, given how terrible most things on the RMAH were priced.


Please don't buy from gold farmers. If you don't buy from them, the prices will go down or the will disappear and the gold you make now will go up in value, not down.

Think about the "economy" and use economics for this.

If we all buy gold, the price of gold goes up, but not by much. Simply because if the demand for gold goes up, the suppliers (gold farmers), will increase production. Right now, the production capabilities are limitless because a lot of it is from botting. Buying gold only encourages them to bot more, and at very least drive the value of gold down.


The AH is your friend, not your foe.

I hear a lot of complaints on here about people only being able to progress with AH items, or no one being able to sell on the AH. I understand the AH, undercut, and make profit. In the last week I have made almost 5m gold from buying and selling items. Of course you have to know what your looking for, but that should be easy for you after you hit max level for one class. Simply look for the items at a really low price that you would want to buy.

Now, that does not mean they are upgrades for you, but they may be for someone else. Example: Yesterday I hit 60 on my barb and was looking for a decent shield to get me by. I first looked at legendary shields and realized they were way out of my price range. I only wanted to spend around 1m gold. So, I popped in 1m gold as max buyout, put in all resist >60 and Block % (the two things that matter most), and took a look. After sorting by lowest buyout first I found a shield with 26% block, 76 all resist, blocking 3700-4700 dmg FOR 4000g!!!

Granted this was an absolute steal, because this shield would go for close to 1m gold, but if your always looking, you will find stuff that people do not know what it is worth. In the same respect if you get an item that might be good, but not for your class, ask someone who plays it, and see what the going rate is. That way you're making the most off the drops you get.

Keep in mind, that I have cleared Act III in Inferno, but I have NOT spent any time farming it, or Act IV. I simply have leveled a couple characters and sold what I found along the way.

One last thing, items that are level 33-50 sell REALLY well if they are decent, people making the jump from normal to nightmare or nightmare to hell, always look to the AH for a boost.
 
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your wiz looks awesome! what shield is that? i have a level 55 wiz and i am only equipping swords just because it looks good on a wiz.

My shield is: Lidless Wall

I got it from a drop in act 2 Hell, while I was playing a public game with another wizard and a demon hunter.
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Now, that does not mean they are upgrades for you, but they may be for someone else. Example: Yesterday I hit 60 on my barb and was looking for a decent shield to get me by. I first looked at legendary shields and realized they were way out of my price range. I only wanted to spend around 1m gold. So, I popped in 1m gold as max buyout, put in all resist >60 and Block % (the two things that matter most), and took a look. After sorting by lowest buyout first I found a shield with 26% block, 76 all resist, blocking 3700-4700 dmg FOR 4000g!!!

You found a sacred shield with 26% and 76 RA for 4k...

I kind of hate you right now redface.gif
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I disagree with practically this entire post.
You really don't understand the Diablo 3 economy, nor does 90% of it's playerbase and that's actually the issue.
When the game first was released...Prices were cheap...In fact, up until the release of the RMAH, prices were actually, reasonable on the AH...Then when the RMAH released, everyone tried to match the price of gold on the AH as well as the RMAH, this is/was the downfall of the system...Nothing else.
This is very very simple, Keynesian economics. (Oh look, someone in this thread actually took economics) ~ We originally relied on the AH for progression because it was a viable source for upgrades...However, with the release of the RMAH (Which, you could argue is "our GD") the prices have skyrocketed while income has stayed on the same level platform.
The problem is actually a very simple one and they're addressing it full throttle. ~ Again, Keynesian.
Right now there's a bottleneck on the AH because 80% of those currently in Inferno cannot actually bypass act 2...So, you're left with a limited market on items with an ilevel above 61...In fact, in checking the market from the back-end this morning, the AH is now FLOODED with level 60/61 ilevel items and the vast majority are selling at 20-100k. The 62/63 ilevel items are found at a PREMIUM of 1m+.
Now, if you do some more investigating into the people that claim that this patch is "ruining the game" it's because Blizzard is directly hitting their profit margins...They're the 20% that are currently in Act 3 and Act 4 and they don't want you to pass act 2...Think of them like an Oil Company and Blizzard is the Toyota Prius ~ This is BAD NEWS for them.
So what are they actually doing? Increasing the drop rates SUBSTANTIALLY...Yes, ladies and gentleman, over a 1000% increase from what it currently is. ~ That's going to crush your AH pricing scheme alone because now, those that are stuck in act 1, can/could accomplish the same goals as someone in act 3...So, there's the first direct impact.
The 2nd thing they're doing is nerfing act 2...Particularly, the ranged mobs...This means that now, that 80% that was stuck, will no longer be stuck.
Both of those changes will severely flood the market and will lower prices dramatically...Not only that but, the announcements that legendaries will change similarly to D2, is decreasing the market on those unique items right now which, is helping your lowest consumers.
So, quite frankly, I feel that your entire post is absolutely misguided and that you, should take an economics class, yourself, to learn how the market is actually effected.

Masked, where is the 1000% increase claim coming from? Just wondering.
post #8036 of 14938
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To list an item on the RMAH I noticed my cc was charged $1. If my item doesn't sell do they refund me the $1?

I would hope so, that would be scary if they are charging people before the item is actually sold....
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One last thing, items that are level 33-50 sell REALLY well if they are decent, people making the jump from normal to nightmare or nightmare to hell, always look to the AH for a boost.

LOL yup! that comes from experience biggrin.gif

drops from NM itself are usually pathetic

but drops from Hell, are like premium items for a NM level character, while for hell itself is crap

which is the same boat, when you are in Hell, you'll want stuff dropped from Inferno levels

and i'm only making reference to Magic and Rares

which still in many cases magic ites has better stats than rares or legendaries

if you don't mind losing a few bonus

for pure damage or pure defence Blues have some very nice rolls

all my Followers are like maxed out using really good drops from Blues
    
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To list an item on the RMAH I noticed my cc was charged $1. If my item doesn't sell do they refund me the $1?

use Battle.net balance instead of CC

then you will not get charged
    
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To list an item on the RMAH I noticed my cc was charged $1. If my item doesn't sell do they refund me the $1?

Ummm... as far as I know it costs NOTHING to list an item on the RMAH. I have listed many items. Never been charged.

You sure the $1 charge is from Blizz?
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I was actually reading the OF (Official Forums) this morning and couldn't stop laughing because of how many farmers that are just complaining thread after thread after thread...LOL...Greedy, much?

I can't stand reading the OF, it's nothing but cry babies, you can't have a sane conversation in there

also the volume is insane

you reply to something, by the time you refresh the topic is already out of sight and buried 3 pages deep

plus they have this cut off at like 1000 post or 2000 something like that, and it automatically gets locked

i hate the OF, it's useless

we have a way better and civilized conversation in here at OCN than there
    
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