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well said I feel the same way and I feel that masked is one of those people who thinks blizz can do no wrong. Oh boy are you clueless bro.

I own a computer business...And I contract myself to major companies...One of them is/was Blizzard...I've contracted out to EA/Bioware and I'm contracting out to Arena-net.

I see things from a tremendously different light than you do because I exist as the end consumer and an operational SSA.

There are logical responses to logical issues and irrational responses to logical issues...MOST of what the vast majority of you complain about are actually rational issues that exist for a reason or, in the case of lag, actually aren't Blizzard's problem.

Yet, you all continually irrationally blame them when, low and behold, 3/4 of the people with operational issues are being provided internet by Comcast, Cox or Charter...The 3 worst ISP's in the nation in regards to up/down. ~ Again, rational, logical responses to irrational claims.

I absolutely feel they're capable of wrong but, there's often a rational reason as to why things happened that way...And they occurred in that order, that way, for an explicit reason.

We're not on reality TV...This isn't the Kardashians...There are actually real, genuine answers to issues!

Please don't put words in my mouth anymore, bro ~ I'd appreciate it.
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I don't understand how some people can play the game off and on for the last few weeks and then want a refund. I could see if it was the 1st day or 2 after you buy it I know some people who have played for weeks then get a refund. Couldn't you tell you didn't like the game after the 1st few hours?
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Originally Posted by irun4edmund View Post

i see a lot of references to ilvl for items. I know this is what determines how good the +[bonus skill] stats on a given item are, but how do you determine what ilvl a particular item has?

Before patch 1.0.3 today you could not previously see the ilvl of an item. After today's patch you can now see the ilvl on items lvl 50 and above.

The higher the ilvl of an item the larger the stat pool is. The potential is an ilvl 63 item will roll much higher stat bonuses than say an ilvl60 item even though they are both lvl 60 items smile.gif

Works the same way in WOW.

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Originally Posted by The_Hairy_Yak View Post

So is that just 1.0.3 being brought up again, or did they actually implement it?

Today's maintenance is for the 1.0.3 patch.
Edited by Cryosis00 - 6/19/12 at 9:20am
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I don't understand how some people can play the game off and on for the last few weeks and then want a refund. I could see if it was the 1st day or 2 after you buy it I know some people who have played for weeks then get a refund. Couldn't you tell you didn't like the game after the 1st few hours?

what's worse is Blizz does the extra mile and gives them the refund if they bought it within 30 days, and some of these guys still give Blizz the bad publicity.
 
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I own a computer business...And I contract myself to major companies...One of them is/was Blizzard...I've contracted out to EA/Bioware and I'm contracting out to Arena-net.
I see things from a tremendously different light than you do because I exist as the end consumer and an operational SSA.
There are logical responses to logical issues and irrational responses to logical issues...MOST of what the vast majority of you complain about are actually rational issues that exist for a reason or, in the case of lag, actually aren't Blizzard's problem.
Yet, you all continually irrationally blame them when, low and behold, 3/4 of the people with operational issues are being provided internet by Comcast, Cox or Charter...The 3 worst ISP's in the nation in regards to up/down. ~ Again, rational, logical responses to irrational claims.
I absolutely feel they're capable of wrong but, there's often a rational reason as to why things happened that way...And they occurred in that order, that way, for an explicit reason.
We're not on reality TV...This isn't the Kardashians...There are actually real, genuine answers to issues!
Please don't put words in my mouth anymore, bro ~ I'd appreciate it.

I beg to differ about internet speeds. http://www.netindex.com/download/2,1/United-States/

They are #2,3 and 4

Besides there are a multitude of other problems associated with this game too.
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Before patch 1.0.3 today you could not previously see the ilvl of an item. After today's patch you can now see the ilvl on items lvl 50 and above.
The higher the ilvl of an item the larger the stat pool is. The potential is an ilvl 63 item will roll much higher stat bonuses than say an ilvl60 item even though they are both lvl 60 items smile.gif
Works the same way in WOW.
Today's maintenance is for the 1.0.3 patch.
i guess my question about ilvl is now irrelevant. I understood the stat pool thing, i just didn't get how you knew you had an ilvl 60 vs say an ilvl 61. Thanks for the response tho. I never played wow, this is my first bliz game.

As for being owed a refund for jewler and bs leveling, lulz. It's been known that this patch was coming for 1-2 weeks or more. I stopped training mine/combining gems. I told a RL friend of mine to stop combining gems because this patch was coming. He didn't listen, I can't wait to say i told you so later tonight. I've got a pile of gold that would be non existent if i'd have kept combining gems. Now I get to do it for ~0.5% of previous cost biggrin.gif
Edited by irun4edmund - 6/19/12 at 9:27am
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I beg to differ about internet speeds. http://www.netindex.com/download/2,1/United-States/
They are #2,3 and 4
Besides there are a multitude of other problems associated with this game too.

Giving indexed source data without offering the average consumer that doesn't agree to the T&C of Speedtest is like my doing a health report on Americans and only polling NFL Atheletes.

You've neglected the 90% of the population that actually matter...And FYI, Ookla admits to that whole-heartily.

Again, rational answer for an irrational claim.

That's the problem with Speed-Test, not everyone uses it and I'm on site atm at a business that pays over 10k/month for internet...My up is 2.2mb ~ Like I said, the worst up/down rates notably in the nation.

Riddle me that oh perfect internet master because when I call Charter, I get the same exact answer: "Sir, we only guarantee you download speeds, uploads will vary".

In fact, Bioware players with Cox/Charter/Comcast are still seeing diminishing returns from their ISP's particularly in Georgia, Alabama, Florida, Tennessee, WV, Connecticut and Mass.

I trust my clients more than their ISP's...It's a good practice and one that I suggest, you start.
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Originally Posted by EVILNOK View Post

I don't understand how some people can play the game off and on for the last few weeks and then want a refund. I could see if it was the 1st day or 2 after you buy it I know some people who have played for weeks then get a refund. Couldn't you tell you didn't like the game after the 1st few hours?

No, because they did like the game. I personally agree with some of the other people on this forum that if you played through to 60 on any character you should absolutely not be able to receive a refund. I also personally feel that even that is a VERY lax agreement. You bought the game, you played it, and you shouldn't be allowed to return it. It's the same as going to gamestop and buying a used game, beating it within a week and returning it via their refund guarantee. In such a situation the distributor and/or developer should have full rights to slap the snot out of you.

I DO agree that the game is 'incomplete' not 'broken', which is frustrating as a consumer. But even if it IS incomplete, you still used their product and should not receive a refund. If I order a cheeseburger, get a burger without cheese, then eat it all and ask for a refund because there was no cheese. My feeling are I would wholeheartedly expect to be ejected from the establishment by the seat of my pants because that is just a downright disrespectful thing to do. If any of you feel differently I am very sorry and I wish there was something I could do to fix the way your parents taught you to treat others, as well as your severe lack of ethics regarding others well being.

P.S. 1.0.3 = wheee.gif I'm excited to see blizzard recover from their downfall thus far and see all the inconsiderate tards repurchase the game in a few months. But again, that's just me.
Edited by The_Hairy_Yak - 6/19/12 at 9:38am
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Originally Posted by Masked View Post

Giving indexed source data without offering the average consumer that doesn't agree to the T&C of Speedtest is like my doing a health report on Americans and only polling NFL Atheletes.
You've neglected the 90% of the population that actually matter...And FYI, Ookla admits to that whole-heartily.
Again, rational answer for an irrational claim.
That's the problem with Speed-Test, not everyone uses it and I'm on site atm at a business that pays over 10k/month for internet...My up is 2.2mb ~ Like I said, the worst up/down rates notably in the nation.
Riddle me that oh perfect internet master because when I call Charter, I get the same exact answer: "Sir, we only guarantee you download speeds, uploads will vary".
In fact, Bioware players with Cox/Charter/Comcast are still seeing diminishing returns from their ISP's particularly in Georgia, Alabama, Florida, Tennessee, WV, Connecticut and Mass.
I trust my clients more than their ISP's...It's a good practice and one that I suggest, you start.

Almost 3,000,000 tests is a good sample. It's not perfect but it's not the worst in the US. You're basically claiming that almost everyone with lag issues must be their ISP. If that was the case, and I say this because I work at Comcast, we would have a lot more calls. But it's not.

Just because your clients have terrible internet doesn't mean everyone else does. Your business is getting ripped off if they only get 2.2mb for that price. Even the second lowest speed offered by Comcast is more than enough to play a crap game like Diablo 3.
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I'm kind of indifferent on these patch notes.

Some of them I love, others I get super pissed at.

I'm sure when I get home and log on I'll end up enjoying the changes though. (besides enrage timers, why the heck is JW in charge again?)
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