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It's definitely fun, but I feel it's more risky - personally don't like to lose Superstition passive AND Ignore pain... (oh i'm such a boring safe guy redface.gif).

And with the new repair costs it's totally understandable :-/
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I tried the weapon throw build, but I only got my crit to 47.5% so there were times when I didn't have any rage to do anything.... and weapon throw doesn't even let you do a normal attack w/o rage. I tried the tornado build and felt it was just too risky when I can go tank build and avoid repair cost through all of act 1 and 2 by simply sitting there and roflstomping all the champs I can find. I recently switched from a high life on hit weapon to one with ~270 vit and feel like the extra health and armor more than make up for the loss of LOH, as my primary health gain is spaming revenge and charge. UNLESS you get up to the 1k range with LOH I feel like it can easily be skipped.

I also tried a 2h build with cleave and rend (blood something rune) and that was a lot of AoE damage.

ALSO ALSO: I switched from superstition passive to the health globe one and they drop too often, my WD buddy has a passive that buffs him for each globe picked up and he gets to 5 stacks often.
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^^^^ as for LoH. I think it is overrated honestly. I am running around now with 3% life leech, and it is pretty sustainable. Seeing anywhere from 200-1000+ life on hit from it. The 3% is gained from Bloodthirst (Barbarian). Class specific life leech skills aren't nerfed in inferno like on weapons and gear. That combined with Ignore Pain w/Ignorance is Bliss rune (20% of all damage converted to life) works out very well for me.
I 2h faceroll farm Act 1 and most of Act 2. Sometimes I pop on my shield for a few packs in Act 2 then back to 2h. In Act 3 though, I am hitting a wall. Probably because of gear. Resists only 750-850 after buffs, 14k dps. 9k armor.

IMO, if they made resists not as important, then I think we would see a lot more unique and fun builds then what most of us are pigeon holed into.

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i got my first semi-decent weapon with life on hit!
barb mighty weapon
589 dps
+106 str
+136 vit
+66 dex
ias +8%
life on hit +777
yeah, very low dps i know lol.

that's pretty good actually, specially with that much LOH it more than makes up for the mid range DPS

is hard to find a good roll of DPS over 600+
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^^^^ as for LoH. I think it is overrated honestly. I am running around now with 3% life leech, and it is pretty sustainable. Seeing anywhere from 200-1000+ life on hit from it. The 3% is gained from Bloodthirst (Barbarian). Class specific life leech skills aren't nerfed in inferno like on weapons and gear. That combined with Ignore Pain w/Ignorance is Bliss rune (20% of all damage converted to life) works out very well for me.
I 2h faceroll farm Act 1 and most of Act 2. Sometimes I pop on my shield for a few packs in Act 2 then back to 2h. In Act 3 though, I am hitting a wall. Probably because of gear. Resists only 750-850 after buffs, 14k dps. 9k armor.
IMO, if they made resists not as important, then I think we would see a lot more unique and fun builds then what most of us are pigeon holed into.
Rebelord

More on this - you need to be very careful when reading the wording of the kind of leech.
Is it % dmg done or % max life? Barb's usually have the latter and is VASTY superior to "dmg done", since damage done takes a massive penalty in Inferno (divide by 6).
E.g. The DH's NT lists life leech as 3%, but I'm fully aware that 3/6 = 0.5% in Inferno.

I agree that LoH is also very deceiving. I only know the % for DH, but most skills do not give 100%, but instead of a much lower %. It has specific % per your skill.
The fact that this is hidden is pretty annoying, but I know with even DH skills the % vary widely:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/pub?key=0AnACdJ2VndUOdFlfbm45V1N2Z3NGVVE4RTRKdmU5aGc&output=html

These numbers are very important for your build as well. Notice how only Grenades, Impale, and vanilla EF have the possibility of 100%? I'm currently using EF/Cover Fire, and 25% is frankly, crap hahah. IMO, stacking life regen (1k+) is not a bad idea, especially since the class is kiting anyway. If you can run around for 5-10 seconds, that's already half of a potion with 1K.
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What's the most powerful sword in the game?
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So basiclly, when choosing a weapon i should choose only by DPS?
All the min\max dmg and element dmg are already calculated inside the dps shown on the weapon?
I was hoping the game will offer something more complex then that.
If I read it correctly, they are planning on removing all elemental (except cold, it will have a 'chill' effect and lower dps) because it is all aesthetic. The DPS numbers you see on the weapon already include any elemental damage it has, and all you get is an aura on the weapon and sometimes enemy deaths that are visually related to damage type.
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More on this - you need to be very careful when reading the wording of the kind of leech.
Is it % dmg done or % max life? Barb's usually have the latter and is VASTY superior to "dmg done", since damage done takes a massive penalty in Inferno (divide by 6).
E.g. The DH's NT lists life leech as 3%, but I'm fully aware that 3/6 = 0.5% in Inferno.
I agree that LoH is also very deceiving. I only know the % for DH, but most skills do not give 100%, but instead of a much lower %. It has specific % per your skill.
The fact that this is hidden is pretty annoying, but I know with even DH skills the % vary widely:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/pub?key=0AnACdJ2VndUOdFlfbm45V1N2Z3NGVVE4RTRKdmU5aGc&output=html
These numbers are very important for your build as well. Notice how only Grenades, Impale, and vanilla EF have the possibility of 100%? I'm currently using EF/Cover Fire, and 25% is frankly, crap hahah. IMO, stacking life regen (1k+) is not a bad idea, especially since the class is kiting anyway. If you can run around for 5-10 seconds, that's already half of a potion with 1K.

Bloodthirst is 3% of all damage done. Not max life, which is Revenge. One reason why Revenge is pretty much a staple for tank build barbs. Same with the Ignorance is Bliss rune, 20% of damage done converted to life. Which works very well when popping Beserker with Insanity 100% more damage. Can pretty much stand in anything and nuke something down.

I know what your talking about life leech Inferno nerf. But Class specific skill/passives dont take that nerf. Only leech on gear/weapons do. I'd have to search/dig for the blue post on it.
HOWEVER, with all the other ninja nerfs that happened in 1.03 without being in the patch notes, they could have changed it.
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If I read it correctly, they are planning on removing all elemental (except cold, it will have a 'chill' effect and lower dps) because it is all aesthetic. The DPS numbers you see on the weapon already include any elemental damage it has, and all you get is an aura on the weapon and sometimes enemy deaths that are visually related to damage type.

this is true and is already or should be coded into the game. godforbid they allowed some customization with weapon effects its so blah.
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Just now found out about Elective Mode

your probably about the 10th person I've seen not know about it. I guess people dont look at the options screen anymore or something

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I wish they had effective ways to speed up leveling; since they nerfed the repeatable quest turn ins, it's kind of meh. I loved the rushing in D2, then trying out different builds in hell.

Act 3 light the bacon. Just kill teh steps and first two or three courtyards. Double the xp/hour of Iskatu and more fun/less tedious/easier.
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