[Official] Diablo III Information and Discussion Thread - Page 998

yeah, i get a lot of dislike for my wd, especially since i skilled him like i did (moderately low dps, tanky pet + lil bit of stun n thorns n bleed). he doesn't do too well in a2, but in a1 he is like an ok-ish ranged + 5 tanks (a lot of times, the ~11k hp dogs are able to tank better than the melees in public games) and best used in runs with all glass cannons. I see more of the high dps run n gun wds, but that can be done with wiz/dh just as easy.. those kinds of pets are something real unique to wd. I'm going to let him sit for a bit with the same equipment, and upgrade him after they give us more info on the buffs they are giving wds.

as far as in general, i feel the wds have the most versatility in viable build styles, as if i see another class, i can almost guess the skills they will use (ex. barb will be either full defensive or ww, not many stray from that... dh is gonna be smokescreen/caltrops, hungering arrows with elemental/rapidfire) when i see a wd i can usually see a mostly unique build (might be pets, run n gun, tank docta, or something completely different altogether) also, with maybe the exception of the wizard (i haven't used him enough to really tell what sort of builds I'll be able to do with him) wd is the most fun to play as.

can you post some pics of your overall gears and summarise your stats

because cc thorn bleed builds shouldnt have too much problem to pull throught act II given you have enough armor and life regen


use leeching beast rune on those zombie dogs since you have decent ammount of thors and bleed damage.. they will not only heal themselves more on top of your life regen but they heal you a bit wich helps your own survival wich is the point of having pets tank for you


im interested by the pet builds and their many deviation to build them.. like full blown cc

to bleed life regen combo or plain out sacrifice mechanic abused beyond your wildest imagination


or the glass cannons who make use of spirrit walk and dps via splinter and zombie bear/vq

[quote name="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0YZd680H5EE&feature=plcp is the gear used.[/quote]

this help alot, TY

I am not sure how to post individual gears, but I can summarize. Also, leeching beasts is not used because I use the aura, which triggers stun and bleed. My survivability is OK when I have the pets out, but the dogs die pretty quickly, leaving me alone on a solo run. In a group run, I do fairly ok, but I find myself not very helpful (they could do darn near as well if i were in town not doing anything)

stats: 1486 INT, 825 vit (30900hp), 4510 armor, 524 res-all. dps17793, crit chance 12%, crit dmg +194%. liferegen 1637, thorns 1945. 2.4% chance to stun, 12.2% chance to bleed (1090-1244)
skills: http://us.battle.net/d3/en/calculator/witch-doctor#aWUXYT!dgZ!cbZYYY

I don't think you get how much stuff drops in act 3, you would make your money back unless you got extremely unlucky and you can easily make 20-30m if you get a good drop, which happens almost every run for me.

Don't clear act 2 just finish it and never do it again. If you are still having trouble with act 2 while trying to beat it then just go back to act 1. The only part of act 2 worth farming is ZK caves and thats not even worth it unless you have very limitied playtime windows, then it might be equal to act 1.

I don't know that much about WD because I played it the least and I don't think I could give much advice. Basically you just vision quest with the obvious skills and stack phantasms on grasp while shooting darts and having ur hex guy down. I use Big Bad vodoo with mana atm but I only cleared act 1 with WD. The other classes I cleared most if not all of act 2. Oher passives are SA and PtV.

If your really struggling then act 1 is still the answer. If you are undergeared or just bad and need practice act 1 will provide that for you. I keep telling everyone act 2 isnt to do, its to get through ASAP and never look back.

Big Bad Vodoo is nice but MoC-OA is better. Attack speed is not nearly as good as pure damage.
Pretty sure Wiz or DH are since they go glass cannon
DH can burst 5520% WD with 4x Clusterbombs in around 2.5sec or 4800 WD in .7sec with 6x traps 2x Clusterbombs and Fan of Knives, and this is with 100% critical hit not counting caltrops spam and how much DH stacks dex/crit damage.
Clusterbombs and traps do 1280% WD and 825% WD respectively
marked for death can be 12% +12% more to other targets in the area so 24%, or be an AoE debuff on the ground for 12% which is way more reliable than chickens.

And dont pets die super easy in inferno? I never tested em cuz I heard they were bad and I prefer glass cannon.


Also bought these for like 23m I think. Desperately needed that attack speed and would still like more since my HP is slow now, down to 16k hp. Only an issue with reflect mobs though lol.


Edited by Ploppytheman - 7/22/12 at 6:53pm

Hardcore 60 Monk death.

So sad.

when i opened the d3 client i noticed this funny text in the game launcher: "If you find the play experience undesirable you may exit the game and resume this download".

to me it sounds like: if you dont like the game, then dont play it" lol.

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Well this is obviously photoshopped everyone knows monks/barbs cant die.

stats wise your build looks much like mine beside the bleed and cc

1600 life regen buffed about 800 unbuffed

about 4k armor unbuffed 8k buffed no thorns

leeching beast rune on the dogs

the enrage rune for 200% weapon damage for 15 seconds on the guarg

fetish army with fetish ambush for burst damage vs bosses or elites


and since you have thorn gears your zombie dogs should heal themselves via the thorn damage with leeching beast rune.. wich should help the survival issue if you dont mind trying it out that way and if i were you i'd dump the mana dumper for a pet build


the only dps you are suposed to do is via the darts and maybe fetish army burst dps.. otherwise you let the pets tank for you



big bad voodoo is 20% attack speed and 30% damage if runed for damage

and witch doctors are the nukers of the game.. big cooldowns big dps burst damage .. wall of zombie(pile on) zombie charger(zombie bear) zombie dogs with sacrifice(next of kin rune)
fetish army(fetish ambush) if you cast it on a pack the summoning annimation will do 250% weapon damage per fetish wich there are 5 iirc 1250% weapon damage burst + the 20% weapon damage for each fetish for 20 seconds..

again.. that's all burst dps.. most glass cannon witch doctors go fetish army zombie bear vission quest build so they can burst for longer period... 131k dps glass cannon witch doctor to me sounds like a great plan if you have the mana regen and + mana gears that cost alot

yes pets do survive in inferno if you use tanking gears .. life regen over life on hit armor/strenght/dex/intel and maybe even some crowd control or thorn damage gears


and i didnt ask how much crit gears can one class abuse off and just pull of one massive crit... so far i havent seen athene one shot the butcher in inferno.. and he has hundreds of million in gears given by people. yet he can't even one shot the butcher.. yet a witch doctor does and i posted the video .. all i am saying is the witch doctor is the utility class and a bit more.. people should take them more seriously for their pets that can be useful in co-op inferno to their nuker abbility to help clear out those annoying packs or illusionist arcane whatever bs blizzard wants to spawn to annoy us or their buff debuff abbility


and hex runed for debuff adds 20% on top of the 10% from the spell.. making it a 30% extra damage of one spells.. yet your damaga caltrops dont stop them from defending themselves it just slows them down a bit and make em take more damage if runed...

mass confusion can debuff for 20% on top of the turning ennemy against each other effect


spirit walk and spirit vessel .. talk about cheating death and the possibilities are endless.. mana regen.. life regen.. longer duration to escape an annoying mob of mortars or even do 100% weapon damage to those you walk through while in spirit form

plague of toads in its many form can either be useless comical or just down right fun to use against bosses elite packs and so on.. from the big toad that swallow normal ennemies for a couple seconds

talking about personal buffs theres the big bad voodoo wich is both personal and group oriented.. soul harvest,gruesome feast passive,pierce of vail passive, doesnt sound too bad


even crowd control themed build can be done.. wall of zombies,grasp of the dead mass confusion,horrify and if you use the 2pets in your build you can have an army of cc dishing pets + your own crowd control spells on top


sounds like perfect for utility build co-op mode with friends too


yet you just dont seem to get that witch doctor can rival if not even beat other classes in burst and down right be more utility geared in any way.. but for witch doctors you need more themed gears to make those theme build work out


is this cool or what?


Edited by Fr0sty - 7/22/12 at 10:26pm