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Aside from their set, the others all "died" because of a bad bios flash. The modded bios used during the flash was truncated and apparently missing an important part of the GDDR5 start-up initialization. There's a fix out on techpowerup. The ones that died in crossfire seem to be just part of a bad batch (from HIS I think). Their latest set hasn't had any problems as of yet.
Thanks for the info

I have been reading through the forums @ XS and it does seem that a lot of it is definitely related to BIOS flashing and/or OCing. Doesn't seem like there's a problem here, just a case of immature flashing tools.
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Christ's sake, you flash the BIOS, you solder on the board to give the core higher voltage, you overclock it, and it's a 'premature death'? Making it sound as if it's the manufacturer's fault here.

Maybe try to count all the CPUs and the cards that die from this kind of benching. No, it still wouldn't be relevant.
Article says that the cards dying doesn't seem to be caused by overvolting, overclocking, etc...

This is disappointing--I seriously hope it's a fluke, but something tells me that this was all too good to be true...
    
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Article says that the cards dying doesn't seem to be caused by overvolting, overclocking, etc...

This is disappointing--I seriously hope it's a fluke, but something tells me that this was all too good to be true...
The article says that, but I've been looking at the posts by people who have said that their card died, and the majority of them did flash the BIOS. Sure there may have been others that just died, but that's typical of new hardware. There's really nothing to be disappointed about.

EDIT: Some people are actually able to revive their cards: http://www.techpowerup.com/articles/...ng/vidcard/152

EDIT2: It appears as if the cards that died without any modifications have been linked to a bad batch received by HIS:
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Little more detail about our 4 dead 4870s:

1) Lived for just over 48 hours from arrival.
2) Were retail boxed / non-review / HIS brand.
3) Lived for 2 days of testing, heat levels ~ 90C @ load.
4) Died approx. 2 hours after enabling CrossfireX.
5) Died after 3 reboots each between XP 32, XP 64, and Vista x64.
6) No BIOS mods, no fan mods, SmartDoctor not used.

Background information:

1) Still have ~10 working 4870s, none put into CrossfireX yet, due to symptomatic failure of others. Waiting to see...
2) No problems with any 4850s in any configuration - Tri and Quad CrossfireX tested.


Looked back at the packing slip, and the HIS lot was received from the same origin... Distributor is thinking that a bad batch may have leaked, due to a large number of HIS already coming back. I do know that these are reference cards, but it is conceivable that a bad batch slipped into production.
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...&postcount=202

Seems that this issue can be put to bed soon.
Edited by darkcloud89 - 6/29/08 at 8:04pm
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Card's die with people who are flashing the BIOS and OCing......could very well be PEBKAC.....
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Card's die with people who are flashing the BIOS and OCing......could very well be PEBKAC.....
Yep you might be just right, either way the will probably fix it in no time.
 
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Card's die with people who are flashing the BIOS and OCing......could very well be PEBKAC.....
Looks like it ... If there's card that are dying STOCK, then I would say there's an issue going on...
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Well I will order mine tonight from the egg when they are in stock as of 06-30-08. I will keep my fingers crossed... I decided to order just 1 card.. Planning on the 4870 X2 card in a month or so..
    
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Well I will order mine tonight from the egg when they are in stock as of 06-30-08. I will keep my fingers crossed... I decided to order just 1 card.. Planning on the 4870 X2 card in a month or so..
What brand did you get? Was it HIS?

Reason I ask is because the ones that seemed to have died without being modified were mostly HIS. Seems like they just got a bad batch.
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What brand did you get? Was it HIS?

Reason I ask is because the ones that seemed to have died without being modified were mostly HIS. Seems like they just got a bad batch.
I have not bought anything yet it says they will have them instock on 06-30-08 so I will be waiting. Also over at XtremeSystems they say the cards are not DEAD thanks to W1zzard's fix!

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"Not a major problem"! People who thought their cards had died now got their cards back thanks to W1zzard's fix!

People getting their dead cards back on track is a happy thing. Except for you. You must be pretty sad the guys got their cards back. I don't think anyone could doubt that.

Happy gaming with your GTX 280 which gives something like 10 FPS more than 4870, if not beaten by it, for an additional fee of only $350! The way it's meant to be played, right
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Christ's sake, you flash the BIOS, you solder on the board to give the core higher voltage, you overclock it, and it's a 'premature death'? Making it sound as if it's the manufacturer's fault here.

Maybe try to count all the CPUs and the cards that die from this kind of benching. No, it still wouldn't be relevant.
Clearly, you did not fully read the article.
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