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But, you'll agree that hardware vendors need to stop being tight with their drivers?
    
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But, you'll agree that hardware vendors need to stop being tight with their drivers?
Of course. That is not to say that binary drivers are a plague that's killing linux, however. Every other OS survives entirely on binary drivers.
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roflmao!
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It's about giving users control and choices. If Microsoft doesn't understand this we can hope for another failure. We don't like your DRM technologies, we don't want the bloat, we don't want predefined structures that benefit Corporations. Give us more control for what we pay for. Take off the restrictions.
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roflmao!
Thats not a Vista BSOD, it is a 98 or ME BSOD.

Personally I think that just like x86, Windows needs to start from scratch. Both are bogged down supporting legacy items and various "junk", however restarting either will be painful but needed.

What they need to do is optimize the OS for performance, add modularity, and give people a reason to switch, maybe $50 for the regular version and $100 for the super-uber-pro version just to get peoples foot in the door at the very least.
    
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I agree Windows should do a complete rewrite AND keep backwards compatibility.

Backwards compatibility should be supported thru virtualization. Microsoft should allow you to download images of previous OS's to be run thru a Windows7 Virtual Machine. Granted this solution isnt perfect, It wouldnt be ideal for running some games / high performance apps but it would be a good solution for alot of businesses running custom software that cant be easily ported.
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Since when is the New York Times a tech organization? I don't think I care what anyone in the NYT has to say about Windows any more than I would from my local paper. Or the Food Network.

Not that I don't disagree. The kernel does need to be rebuilt, and rebuilt as a kernel. The Windows model, whether real or marketing, of "everything is part of the OS" is absurd. No wonder half the system breaks when they change something seemingly unrelated. This is one area where Macs have it right: just run on a frickin Unix kernel. Why reinvent that wheel? Do all you value-added stuff in the shell and applications.

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Windows 1.0
Windows 2.0
Windows 3.0
Windows 3.1
Windows 4.0 = 95, 98, ME
Windows 5.0 = 2000
Windows 5.1 = XP
Windows 6.0 = Vista

I wonder where they got Windows 7 from...
Nope...ME was the end of the Win 9x code base. As was pointed out, Windows 2000 and up were based on the NT code base. So a more accurate numbering scheme would be:

4 = NT 4.0
5 = Windows 2000
5.1 = XP
6 = Vista
7 = Windows 7

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i don't count them by numbers , because if they wanted to call them by numbers, then they would
They do call them by the numbers internally, and in the software itself. Office 2007 is Office 12, for example. The year naming convention was something they borrowed from how cars were marketed, to try and sell us on the idea of buying new software every year or two. I.e., "Windows 4.0" doesn't sound that outdated; but Windows 95 sure as heck does!!!
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“Our approach with Windows 7,†he wrote, “is to build off the same core architecture as Windows Vista so the investments you and our partners have made in Windows Vista will continue to pay off with Windows 7.â€
Yes, twist that knife.
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LOL I didn't feel like I was reading a biased article...
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