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i'm still skeptical of the 9950's performance, but maybe they tinkered around with the package to allow higher clocks but with higher heat, a TRUE with 2x120mm fans should satisfy it though. we'll see but i'm really looking up upgrade my cpu soon, it's quickly becoming the bottleneck of my system
    
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This is how the original Spider laungh should have gone, 790GX, 9950 and the 4 series.
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There is noting special about 9950, it is just 9850 with 100MHz higher clock speed, and it have 140W TDP (ie. higher power consumption) !
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Yea... I'm somewhat skeptical about this "affordable, but highly overclockable processors - such as the upcoming Phenom 9950." Any chip that is pulling in 140W isn't going to be very OCable. I'm waiting to see the Phenoms OC like the C2Qs, easily hitting mid 3GHz.
    
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I didn't know that Intel has a CPU/GPU platform?

Considering that the Core 2 is faster than K10, I think Core 2 + ATI will be faster than AMD + ATI.
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Originally Posted by SyncMaster753 View Post
i'm still skeptical of the 9950's performance, but maybe they tinkered around with the package to allow higher clocks but with higher heat, a TRUE with 2x120mm fans should satisfy it though. we'll see but i'm really looking up upgrade my cpu soon, it's quickly becoming the bottleneck of my system
I think the "highly overclockable" was mainly a marketing reference to the SB750 chipset, really. If anything I expect the 9950 to be less overclockable than the 9850 since it's starting from a higher clock speed. Unless, of course, these are binned at a much high quality.

I think AMD's chipset+GPU+CPU platform is really going to shine when the Shanghai-based chips come out. The graphics cards and chipsets are already amazing, and K10.5@45nm should give the Phenom the small boost it needs. I'm definitely looking forward to this.

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I didn't know that Intel has a CPU/GPU platform?
Well, they do have integrated graphics. And AMD, quite frankly, kicks their ass on that one.

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Is AMD on back on track? We think so.
Me too
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post #18 of 23
AMD Fanboys that said the takeover of ATi was a bad thing are silenced now.
R600 went out to be a good architecture while Phenom went out to be let's say: not that competitive.

Good step of AMD to extend their main business to multiple ones.
NVidia is trying the same but is still depending to much on the discrete GPU market...
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AMD Fanboys that said the takeover of ATi was a bad thing are silenced now.
R600 went out to be a good architecture while Phenom went out to be let's say: not that competitive.

Good step of AMD to extend their main business to multiple ones.
NVidia is trying the same but is still depending to much on the discrete GPU market...
So you are contending that had AMD not purchased ATI that ATI would never have released a product like the 4850?

Perhaps under independent ownership they would have never sunk below Nvidia in the first place?

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post #20 of 23
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Perhaps under independent ownership they would have never sunk below Nvidia in the first place?
Doubtful. R600 was probably too far along in development for the merger to have really affected the outcome.

RV770 on the other hand? We'll probably never know.
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