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Originally Posted by proro1974 View Post
nvidia fan boys are always a bit slow. if one followed nvidia's thinking it should take about 8 4870s to beat a couple GTX280s but since that isnt the case their goose is cooked. $500 for a 4870X2 against $650 for a GTX280 which it will kill quite easily really isnt a contest. thats bringing a knife to a gunfight.
You mean bringing a gun to a knife fight
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watching the Nvidia Defense Force try to spin this is very entertaining.

Just face it guys, ATI is just better this round. performance/dollar, they win. hands down.
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QFT.

They win on both price and performance.
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QFT.

They win on both price and performance.
when the HD 4870x2 comes out anyway.

Wonder will ASUS make a 4850x2 or 4850x3 or 4870x3 like they were going to make the 3850x3 and made the 3850x2.
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Omg. Omg. Omg.

I'm so glad I waited for these to come out. I'll be the first in line to get a pair of these.

*pre-orders*

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Don't get TOO excited, we are after all only considering 4 cards to be superior to 3 cards because of the price differential, not because of actual performance of the architecture.

If Nvidia drops the price of the 280....would you still be as impressed?
1. Nvidia cannot drop the price.
2. Yes I would still be impressed because you don't need a Nvidia motherboard (crap) to achieve this.

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Yes.

Especially considering Nvidias PhysX drivers artificially pump up their vantage scores. not to mention its nearly 3 months before the release of the 4870X2, so the drivers are still VERY immature, and X2 drivers are usually very complicated, so in 3 months time they should be that much better
The 4870X2 drivers are going to be direct derivatives of the 3870X2 drivers. I wouldn't expect much in the way of optimizations. I always here about the revolutionary drivers that will increase performance 20%, and they never come to be.

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Even if Nvidia drops the prices on the GTX 280, they will not be able to drop them low enough to compete on a price/performance standpoint.

A GTX 280 is what.. $650. The 4870X2 is suppose to be between $500-$550. Even if Nvidia manages some how to drop prices of The GTX 280 to $400, you are still looking at a price tag of $1100 for 2 4870X2's compared to $1200 for 3 GTX 280's. That is still a win for ATI in my book.
There is absolutely no way the 4870X2 will be $500-$500. Why:

1. A 4870 is $300, going off the relationship between the 3870 and the 3870X2 the 4870X2 should run closer to $600.
2. GDDR5 memory will be in short demand when these cards are running around with 1GB of it.
3. PCI Express 2.0 interface on board.
4. Why should ATI sell it for $500-$550 (even if they could). It is faster than a GTX280.


I would like to see the scores on a Skulltrail system.
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I would like to see the scores on a Skulltrail system.
Give CyberDruid a few test cards I'm sure they'll have a happy home.

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The 4870X2 drivers are going to be direct derivatives of the 3870X2 drivers. I wouldn't expect much in the way of optimizations. I always here about the revolutionary drivers that will increase performance 20%, and they never come to be.
I seriously, seriously doubt it. First of all, the architecture difference from RV6xx to RV7xx is fairly significant, and these changes will have to be reflected in driver optimizations. Then you add that to the fact that the HD4870X2 does not actually use CrossFire, it uses a new proprietary interconnect that appears to vary greatly from CrossFire:
http://www.overclock.net/hardware-ne...-strategy.html
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Well I have decided what my next 2 cards will be. I have till august/oct to save up too.
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Wow...

And this is without the advantages that Nvidia has for this benchmark.
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