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I fear Nvidia shoving PhysX in every major launch from here on out (like their "The Way Its Meant to Be Played). This could result in poor performance for ATI cards, unless of course they have PhysX too.
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Also it is running a Phenom x4 9950 the CPU.
All AMD machines breaking 3D Mark records, nice. Can't wait to see what this thing does with a C2Q.
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I hate fanboyism.
If in very high res playing Crysis HD4870x2 x2 > GTX 280 x3. Well I'll go for ATI this time.
Don't really care if they put 1,2,...12 gpus in one PCB, architecture is their problem not the consumer one. My problem is to play this damn Crysis on my 30 dell screen where I can't decrease the res. And GTX 280x3 doesn't allow me to do that :/. Might be better with ATI solution...

If you prefer GTX 280 because they choosed to make a big chip instead of two small ones well, that's your choice but this is not budget/perf wise.
It's like claiming that phenom is superior to intel quad because they are "true quadcore". What matter is the perf in game at very high res. Period.
    
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DAMN! the GTX280 scored X18362 with only 3.

Back on topic: Looks like ATI has finally become a contender again. Can't wait for real world game benchies these synthetic benchmarks are getting old with the same old arguments.
No... three GTX280's score around X7,000.
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Anyhow why do three 280GTX score low?

If the 4870x2 does as good as the screen shot shows they are going to be more than $500 Just like if Phenom was better than yorkfield we would be paying $1400 a chip instead of $265.

Wasn't all that long ago I paid $1100 for my AMD FX62.
Edited by USFORCES - 6/30/08 at 8:25pm
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Whats it matter how many cores or anything are on one chip. If it costs the same or less than another card and offers better performance then buy it. I dont care what company makes the fastest card as long as it hits a great price/performance ratio thats all the matters. If i had the money id definately drop it down for 2 of these cards but for now my 4850 will do me well.
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Originally Posted by USFORCES View Post
Anyhow why do three 280GTX score low?
Because they scale poorly? AMD has said that the new HD4870X2 does not use an internal CrossFire interconnect, but developed a new proprietary connection that allows fo rmuch better scaling. That's how this setup is able to perform so well.

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If the 4870x2 does as good as the screen shot shows they are going to be more than $500 Just like if Phenom was better than yorkfield we would be paying $1400 a chip instead of $265.
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The ATI Radeon HD4870 X2 codenamed R700 is slated for a week 4, July release. This dual-GPU card which features two of the RV770 graphics processors which have been an overnight success for AMD/ATI in their single-GPU avatars, the HD4850 and HD4870, will be priced at US $499. AMD claims that this card will overwhelm the GeForce GTX 280. AMD will be in a position to supply samples for internal testing and quality evaluation by 15th of July and July 24th is slated for completion of testing following which, the product could start shipping.
http://www.techpowerup.com/64378/Rad...r_Release.html

They can afford to have the prices set so low because the cheap is relatively inexpensive to make and they have apparently been getting very good yields. In reality, they could probably get away with pricing it at around $700 since it should be about 50% faster than the GTX280, and just enjoy all that delicious profit. The fact that they don't says something about their commitment to price/performance, but more importantly it leaves Nvidia with no emergency fallback.

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I fear Nvidia shoving PhysX in every major launch from here on out (like their "The Way Its Meant to Be Played). This could result in poor performance for ATI cards, unless of course they have PhysX too.
Hmm..it's certainly possible that they could use TWIMTBP to force developers into implementing PhysX. But I'm thinking that if they just throw in the support for it purely to appease Nvidia that the end result really won't be anything that spectacular. This is one area where there's a lot of uncertainty, I think. While with G80, their developer optimizations were typically a nice performance increase, they ultimately didn't have a huge effect on high-end performance since, for the most part, there wasn't a huge amount of competition. However, as it stands now, the situation is entirely different, and Nvidia could become much more reliant on optimization to even remain competitive. If what we saw with the whole Assassin's Creed and DX10.1 situation is an example of what Nvidia will do with TWIMTBP in order to "win", we could be in store for some very dirty tricks.

Also worth noting is that ATI didn't have a really competitive ISV program like the current deal with Blizzard before. Now that they're showing some interest in possibly pursuing this, studios/devs could possibly look at the pricing of AMD's new series and see that as a potentially larger user base. We'll just have to wait and see how this pans out.
Edited by darkcloud89 - 6/30/08 at 8:44pm
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Wow those are amazing scores and even beats out 3x280 cards. Ouch that has put Nvidia in its place.

Seriously considering the price and ther performance of the cards...Even with a CF setup is awesome and makes you wonder why you would want to go Nvidia this time round atleast.

This is getting interesting for sure.
4 GPUs vs 3 GPUs. I'm not surprised actually.
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4 GPUs vs 3 GPUs. I'm not surprised actually.
Don't compare the number of GPUs, compare the costs.
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