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I saw a deal on a 9800 GTX for about 170 on tigerdirect and was thinking about buying it.

i was wondering how much of a bottleneck my cpu (amd athlon x2 4400+) would be with the 9800 GTX...?

Thanks.

edit: ok, looked at some benchmarks for the card against a 4850 and was thinking about maybe getting the ati instead.

still wondering how much of a bottleneck my cpu would be with the 4850..?

thanks again.
Edited by solidus_snake_636 - 6/30/08 at 9:45am
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post #2 of 26
The 4400 would always be a bottleneck, just not a large enough one to limit performance with the 9800GTX. You will, however, experience a slightly larger bottleneck if you go for the HD4850.
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any x2 will be a bottleneck of these cards,i reccomend the HD 4850.
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any x2 will be a bottleneck of these cards,i reccomend the HD 4850.
wait..what?

the other guy said that the 4850 would be MORE of a bottleneck, but you recommend it.

anyone wanna make it clearer?

i can update my proc to a 6000+ black edition or maybe even a phenom, but i want to know if these graphic cards would work fine if i updated to a 6000+.

thanks.
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er I was going to say there wouldn't be much of a bottleneck if you were at say 2.8/3.0 on that cpu, but your on a Dell board. I would personally get a new motherboard and a 4850 and just clock your cpu up to 2.8/3.0 which is easily done. You will also need a new CPU heatsink.
    
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6000+ would be much better than 4400+
and if you overclocked it more, you could definitely push some more performance out of a 9800gtx or HD4850.

picture the two graphs of a straight line, one the CPU and the other the GPU.
there comes a point in time where pushing the speed of your cpu will max of the performance of the GPU and anything more will not add to the GPU's performance (but obviously it would be faster if you kept going).

when the other person was saying the 4850 would be more of a bottleneck, he meant that the 4850 is BETTER than the 9800gtx and you would in reality be losing more performance.

hope this helps
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6000+ would be much better than 4400+
and if you overclocked it more, you could definitely push some more performance out of a 9800gtx or HD4850.

picture the two graphs of a straight line, one the CPU and the other the GPU.
there comes a point in time where pushing the speed of your cpu will max of the performance of the GPU and anything more will not add to the GPU's performance (but obviously it would be faster if you kept going).

when the other person was saying the 4850 would be more of a bottleneck, he meant that the 4850 is BETTER than the 9800gtx and you would in reality be losing more performance.

hope this helps
alright, so getting a 6000+ would basically solve my botleneck problems??

i was thinking about getting this, it's not a 6000+, but still:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16819103194

it's got great reviews and it runs well. I don't have enough money to upgrade my mobo yet, but i think i'll have enough to upgrade the cpu.

mine runs at 2.4 now, so this one would be a lot better since it runs at 2.6 and is just overall better. i could update my mobo later on, but i think this would do fine.

what do u guys think?
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post #8 of 26
The 4400 will certainly bottleneck the newer cards, but that doesn't mean you won't see large improvements with the cards.

I assume you want to upgrade for gaming performance? You're gaming at 1280x1040 res? As long as you are above the 800x600 res, the games performance will depend much more on your gpu than cpu.

I'd recommend that you get a new card and see how things are performing. If you're still not happy with it then maybe it's time you upgrade your cpu/ram.

If you do decide to upgrade your cpu/ram, then you have to ask how much money you want to spend. Your options would be:
1. Get a new cpu with same socket (6000 or 6400) and not overclock (because you can't with dell board)
2. Get a new mobo to overclock with and keep 4400 (probably need a better HSF)
3. Get a new mobo and go intel (IMO the 8400 cpu is best option for intel gaming right now)

It all depends on how much you want to spend. But like I said, try the new gpu and if you're not happy, then maybe upgrade something else.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by solidus_snake_636 View Post
alright, so getting a 6000+ would basically solve my botleneck problems??

i was thinking about getting this, it's not a 6000+, but still:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16819103194

it's got great reviews and it runs well. I don't have enough money to upgrade my mobo yet, but i think i'll have enough to upgrade the cpu.

mine runs at 2.4 now, so this one would be a lot better since it runs at 2.6 and is just overall better. i could update my mobo later on, but i think this would do fine.

what do u guys think?
yes thats a good choice it has an unlocked mulipyer so it can go to 3.2 easy
    
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it would be but would be a vaild upgrade to you in gaming. my sons rig has an X2 4600+ and I put my G80 GTS 320mb in it and it scored 9.5k 3dmark06 and plays every game we play fine.
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