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They might not have many advantages over Windows, but competition among vendors can only result in benefits to the consumer.
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If a lot of the big busineses here switched to Macs they'd have a big problem. Only 1 computer shop in the birmingham area works on Mac laptops and desktops.
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post #13 of 52
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Not only will it cost extra money to integrate macs into an existing infrastructure (active directory and what not), but it will also cost money to train many employees to use them.
If that was your punchline - it shouldn't be much of a problem. OSX is, by far, the easiest OS to learn.

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Stuff like Mac crashing more often than Vista
That's not a problem.

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problems with document sharing (different fonts, filetypes)
What exactly did you have in mind? I've been on a Mac for a year and a few weeks and haven't had any such problem.

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and sudden disappearing network folders on the mac (win/linux server)....
Not sure about this.

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OSX has a lot more useful tools than Vista
While I agree, it really depends what you're talking about. If you mean office/desktop work, then I'd say yes. I think Macs are very good at that. But then the video and media stuff? I'd say that's just unnecessary. And if you mean commercial software like CAD and engineering programs... A Mac probably wouldn't be the #1 choice.

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Why do you think there aren't nearly as many viruses for Macs? Because the people who make viruses DON'T CARE ABOUT MACS. Why create a virus for OSX when you can make a virus for Windows, the OS that houses the majority of important data as far as large businesses and such are concerned?
Anyone else tired of hearing this rhetoric over and over again? The parrots don't need to swoop down and squawk the same line over and over every time there's mac/PC talk.

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They might not have many advantages over Windows, but competition among vendors can only result in benefits to the consumer.
Too bad most people here only want to see microsoft continue its chokehold on the market with its iron fist. I'd like to see some competition. I don't see how it can hurt any of us.
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The Hundred Gunner: If that was your punchline - it shouldn't be much of a problem. OSX is, by far, the easiest OS to learn.
That was far the biggest crock of horse crap I have seen. I use a mac at school and it is way more difficult then XP. Also I took my grandma to a mac store to see how she liked OSX and she said "I don't get this, I like my laptop better". Also you say a mac doesn't have problems crashing? Funny how about 3 out of 5 G5's in my class freeze up doing simple task's.
    
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thats because you've been using wondows for long time now, when you started it probably took you a while to learn it. i used a mac for a year and it was ok, you get used it pretty quick.
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I've been using linux for 10 years, windows for 22 years and OS X for about a week since I purchased a MBP.

-OS X is the easiest OS X is the easiest OS I have used to date other than Ubuntu.
-Leopard easily supports AD, actually I've had more success using our iMacs and joining them to AD instead of OD.
-Leopard automatically detected all Windows based machines automatically with all file shares. It would prompt for credentials and I instantly had access to files.

I'm not a Windows man turned into a Mac fan boy but I have to admit that a lot of my attitudes have changed since actually using a MBP with Dual Boot OS X and XP. We have to X servers and those machines are impossible to manually configuration without disabling one feature enabling another/etc.

I just have to say it's sad with the amount of trolling that's occurring on these forums now a days. Information is shared and everyone has to give their opinion and gets affended instead of sharing ideas and learning.
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I've been using linux for 10 years, windows for 22 years and OS X for about a week since I purchased a MBP.

-OS X is the easiest OS X is the easiest OS I have used to date other than Ubuntu.
-Leopard easily supports AD, actually I've had more success using our iMacs and joining them to AD instead of OD.
-Leopard automatically detected all Windows based machines automatically with all file shares. It would prompt for credentials and I instantly had access to files.

I'm not a Windows man turned into a Mac fan boy but I have to admit that a lot of my attitudes have changed since actually using a MBP with Dual Boot OS X and XP. We have to X servers and those machines are impossible to manually configuration without disabling one feature enabling another/etc.

I just have to say it's sad with the amount of trolling that's occurring on these forums now a days. Information is shared and everyone has to give their opinion and gets affended instead of sharing ideas and learning.
Troll \\\\ Flame aside I'll disagree with you... not everyone is as skilled with OS's and servers as you are. Therefore, they won't know as much and won't be as accustomed to the various environments. I've used Vista, Ubuntu, and Leopard and Vista is a lot easier to use than the other two. Not only that, people are more familiar with Windows Based PCs, and WILL need training. If my company switched over to Macs, I would literally have to be retrained in everything. Macs aren't as straightforward as people portray them to be... If I gave my mom a Mac she would probably break down and cry because they're impossible to navigate without prior knowledge of the OS, and all the programs she uses wouldn't be available for it.

There is a reason people use Windows far more than they use Macs: EASE AND COST OF USAGE are both considerably lower.
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If that was your punchline - it shouldn't be much of a problem. OSX is, by far, the easiest OS to learn.
Actually, the first part was my punchline (the integration), and the training was just an afterthought. Not so much for the end-users, but for the techs. Most techs don't know a damn thing about OSX other than its shell scripting, and I bet they don't even realize they know that much .

I mean, at the end of the day its not that OSX CAN'T do what Win/Nix does. Its just a matter of weighing the costs and benefits. And there isn't any real benefit to OSX over XP/2003/Nix that would compensate for the cost of switching over.
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Nom nom nom, eating away Microsoft's strong hold on business, but what many people don't know about Macs are they are more restrictive than Microsoft. When businesses goto customize they're going to be slapped on the wrist and told to do it "the Apple way."
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Oh yay. Promoting Mac to businesses means more software that Windows users can't use.
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