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post #21 of 47
When are these chips (e5XXX) due to be released?
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post #22 of 47
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Originally Posted by beanbagofdoom View Post
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E5200
2.5GHZ
Wolfdale
45nm
FSB 800MHz
2mb cache

Cant Wait to see how these price and perform , *crosses fingers for 3.6+*
OT
ROFL @ Code Geass avy
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im putting money that they can reach 3.6 easy and 4 with some voltage
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LOL theres always some post towards my avy XD

but back on topic: wouldnt this chip make good use of low budget boards such as G31M-S2L and P31-DS3L , with such a high multi mabye 3.5-4ghz on cheap boards is possible
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post #25 of 47
looks good... Could be a shweet upgrade from my E2160... especially if it clocks better than my 2160 did...

*waits for LinsKingdom to set up a new information thread *
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post #26 of 47
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Originally Posted by dmreeves View Post
When are these chips (e5XXX) due to be released?
Sometime on Q3 2008

Q3 means July, August or September
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post #27 of 47
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Originally Posted by dmreeves View Post
When are these chips (e5XXX) due to be released?
i think Q3 of 2008
*lol TheWay beat me to it xD
this looks interesting.if they manage to keep it under 100$ i might upgrade from my 2160 to this would be sweet
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post #28 of 47
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Hmmmm if 3.9ghz (safe) was possible on a 10.5 wofldale I wonder how far 12.5 would go O_O, 400fsb = 5ghz .....
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post #29 of 47
LOL finally a 45nm chip with a decent multi that's not 1000+. we will see how these do, i remember intel did something to the 21** lineup to keep them from going past 3Ghz. but now they are fixed and i have mine running at 3.5 in my backup rig.
post #30 of 47
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Originally Posted by A Russian :D View Post
i bet you this will do 4.0+ because most 45nm CPU's suffer from low multiplier (Q9300). the E8400 has a 9x and can do 4.0. this has a 12.5 and + 333 FBS = 4.0

i might get this chip for upgrade
I doubt these chips will do 4GHz on a regular basis. 3.6GHz probably. 4GH, no.

Quote:
Originally Posted by pauldovi View Post
There was a article published by an electrical engineering group that said in its maturity, Intel's 45nm process should be able to deliver 3.6Ghz at under 1V.

http://www.lostcircuits.com/cpu/intel_penryn/
That might only be slightly optimistic, however:

1. Intel's 45nm process has only seen two revisions so far. That is not maturity.

2. That quote is for the highest speed grades, meaning the best binned chips (i.e the ones that go into the Core 2 Quad Extreme). The E5xxx will be the lowest speed grades and the worst chips.

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Originally Posted by beanbagofdoom View Post
Hmmmm if 3.9ghz (safe) was possible on a 10.5 wofldale I wonder how far 12.5 would go O_O, 400fsb = 5ghz .....
12.5 would go to the same max clock.

After a multiplier of 8.5 or so, no higher is going to get you a better final OC on a good motherboard.

I have boards that are good for 570MHz FSB on dual cores. That doesn't mean I can get E8400s to 5Ghz on air.

If these E5xxx chips are binned in a manner at all similar to the E2xxx xhips (which I own four of, two E2140s and two E2160s), they will have crappy FSB walls, and will generally clock to the fastest stock speed of other intel chips before needing massive voltage boosts, and will still fall short of the higher end chips in final clock speed, in most cases.

I'm certain the E5xxx line will be very good values for overclockers. However, expecting them to do 4GHz, when even the newer E8400s aren't always 24/7 stable at those speeds, is foolish.

It's very unlikely that intel is going to have very many chips with more than half of thier cache defective. This means that the E5xxx will only get the very wost of dies.

I still say 3.6GHz is a good guess for what the mode overclock on air will be with these chips. Some will do worse, some will do better, but the 4GHz+ examples are, in all probability, going to be very rare.
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