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The problem is people barely notice the difference between DX9 and DX10. How are they going to notice a difference between DX10 and DX10.1.
It wont be a difference between DX10 and DX10.1, Its going to be a difference between DX9 and DX10.1.


And freeroller man, Its not my fault you haven't seen the reviews, or that the reviews you have seen didn't give you the numbers you wanted. But the facts is the facts is the facts.

4800 Series cards take a smaller hit from AA than Nvidia cards. Hell, even 3800 series cards took less of a hit, it was just the AF that killed them, which has been fixed.
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post #52 of 90
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It wont be a difference between DX10 and DX10.1, Its going to be a difference between DX9 and DX10.1.


And freeroller man, Its not my fault you haven't seen the reviews, or that the reviews you have seen didn't give you the numbers you wanted. But the facts is the facts is the facts.

4800 Series cards take a smaller hit from AA than Nvidia cards. Hell, even 3800 series cards took less of a hit, it was just the AF that killed them, which has been fixed.
AA still hurts the HD3k series at high resolutions
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AA still hurts the HD3k series at high resolutions
yeah... but seriously, who spends $2000 on a 2560x1600 monitor and then only dishes out $200 for a 3870?

my 3870x2 (without af) only takes about a 3fps hit from enabling 8xAA @ 1280x1024 which is my monitors native res
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post #54 of 90
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The GT200b (55nm refresh of the GT200) has already been taped out, it was in the news section. The cards will be available some time in September. The differences will be the core speed and manufacturing process. It will be faster, overclock a little better, have a higher yield (probably 50% instead of less than 40%), and use less power
Even if GT200b is taped out, it'll still be hard for them to put in the superset and tape a new core out and then only to introduce it only a few months after the introduction of GTX200(b). It would certainly piss off the buyers of the GTX200 and GTX200b. It will be a while before we see a DX 10.1 GPU from Nvidia.
    
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It will be a while before we see a DX 10.1 GPU from Nvidia.
I have a feeling its going to be a while before we actually see many dx10.1 games either. Although, I do believe that ATI is the more practical, future proof route to go over the nvidia cards. I would have went ati if I hadnt gave in on building my new pc 3 weeks before the ATI cards came out : /. Oh well, thats life I suppose.
post #56 of 90
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The problem is people barely notice the difference between DX9 and DX10. How are they going to notice a difference between DX10 and DX10.1.
DirectX 10.1 isn't about adding pretty effects, it's about optimizing the DirectX 10 API to run better.
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yeah... but seriously, who spends $2000 on a 2560x1600 monitor and then only dishes out $200 for a 3870?

my 3870x2 (without af) only takes about a 3fps hit from enabling 8xAA @ 1280x1024 which is my monitors native res
I only paid $1,199 for my Dell 30" and $1,220 for my Samsung 305T.
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Even if GT200b is taped out, it'll still be hard for them to put in the superset and tape a new core out and then only to introduce it only a few months after the introduction of GTX200(b). It would certainly piss off the buyers of the GTX200 and GTX200b. It will be a while before we see a DX 10.1 GPU from Nvidia.
It's been taped out... there will be no DX10.1 support. The GPU core is called GT200, not GTX. The cores are identical besides their manufacturing process.
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I have a feeling its going to be a while before we actually see many dx10.1 games either. Although, I do believe that ATI is the more practical, future proof route to go over the nvidia cards. I would have went ati if I hadnt gave in on building my new pc 3 weeks before the ATI cards came out : /. Oh well, thats life I suppose.
We've already seen hints of what DirectX 10.1 can do in Assassin's Creed. Support for DirectX 10.1 was cut from the game for some reason though.
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post #59 of 90
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We've already seen hints of what DirectX 10.1 can do in Assassin's Creed. Support for DirectX 10.1 was cut from the game for some reason though.
The game was sponsored by NVidia we've known the reason since the benchmarks of DX10.1 came out

If you didn't read them, ATI's cards demolished NVidia's just because of DX10.1 It was removed so NVidia could brag about having better cards
post #60 of 90
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Originally Posted by RussianGrimmReaper View Post
The game was sponsored by NVidia we've known the reason since the benchmarks of DX10.1 came out

If you didn't read them, ATI's cards demolished NVidia's just because of DX10.1 It was removed so NVidia could brag about having better cards
I don't like pointing fingers.
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