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If you're not looking to go SLI, pick yourself up a good P35 motherboard. They OC quads beautifully, and you can get a good one (Gigabyte DS3 comes to mind) for around $80-90. You can get a good quad in the $200-230 range.
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you will probably gain about 10% out of that card if you went with a 3ghz+ c2d setup, and most of that gain would be from the speed of ddr2.

tbh you might be best of waiting for nehalem and skipping ddr2 altogether??
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post #13 of 23
E2xxx is a good starting point. E7200/E8xxx is better. With a solid P35 board, you see some improvement there. My old E2180 with single 8800GT got 13K.
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Just increase your eye-candy and resolution. GPU bottleneck gone.
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I deff would agree with pioneerisloud also. There isn't many upgrades that you would be able to do without getting more than just a CPU. The fact that you are able to OC that CPU as high as you are, on stock volts, is AMAZING!!! I would suggest upping that voltage and OCing a little higher. That alone would make a HUGE diff in games, and other applications.
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The fact that you are able to OC that CPU as high as you are, on stock volts, is AMAZING!!!

Actually, a lot of people got to 2.9 on stock volts with their Opty 165s. I got lucky and got one of the best steppings by chance from the Egg. To be honest though, I've never done any real stress testing besides gaming, so whether that's a truly stable OC is questionable.

Well, thanks for all the input from the community, you guys have helped me get over my processor inadequacy issues. Even though I thought long and hard against it, I went ahead and added a second EVGA 8800GT since they are so cheap right now and bottleneck be damned.
Edited by Mjolnir - 7/3/08 at 5:40am
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The fact that you are able to OC that CPU as high as you are, on stock volts, is AMAZING!!!

Actually, a lot of people got to 2.9 on stock volts with their Opty 165s. I got lucky and got one of the best steppings by chance from the Egg. To be honest though, I've never done any real stress testing besides gaming, so whether that's a truly stable OC is questionable.

Well, thanks for all the input from the community, you guys have helped me get over my processor inadequacy issues. Even though I thought long and hard against it, I went ahead and added a second EVGA 8800GT since they are so cheap right now and bottleneck be damned.
Honestly....I would think that given your resolution you wouldn't be TOO bottlenecked. In your particular case...yeah its a slight bottleneck. Get a nice 1900x1200 screen....turn up all the nice pretty eye candy.....boom!!! Bottleneck gone!

Currently gaming REALLY doesn't have as much of a CPU bottleneck as Intel owners want you to think. I'm not saying this as an AMD fanboy. If somebody were building a new machine for gaming, I'll ALWAYS recommend a good Core 2 Duo setup. But when you've already got some badass AMD equipment (939 or AM2)...there's absolutely no reason CURRENTLY to upgrade if you're just gaming.

I'm glad to see that you are happy with your 939 rig! I as well ended up with one of the better steppings for the 165's. Currently stressing 2.84GHz, 1.25v on my chip (0.1v undervolted) and I'm so far 1 hour stable. And...that's with the 8x multiplier . You do the math!
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Well pio I will be putting that theory to the test

I just sold my sig rig, and put the proceeds toward an e8400 which should be shipped out any time. Will be able to compare the two and end this debate once and for all

I upgraded from my amd rig, MOSTLY due to limited OC ability, and that I wanted to go 45nm. Right now my backup rig is an e6600, which I just OC'd to 3.3 from 2.4 (3.3 = what I got my 5600+ to) so im quite satisfied with this for now.

@OP

If you insist on upgrading, I suggest you go the whole way, or not at all. Dont go with an e2xxx as some suggest because you wont gain anything. Go with a e8400/q6600 or dont move

For gaming, you might actually consider the q6600, as while the game takes what it needs from the cpu, the other 3 cores can run the OS in the background, resulting, in faster game > OS commands which WILL result in higher fps over a dualcore. I went e8400 because of the higher clock speeds, 1333fsb, and in the end its basically got the same power if you can OC it decently.
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Well pio I will be putting that theory to the test

I just sold my sig rig, and put the proceeds toward an e8400 which should be shipped out any time. Will be able to compare the two and end this debate once and for all

I upgraded from my amd rig, MOSTLY due to limited OC ability, and that I wanted to go 45nm. Right now my backup rig is an e6600, which I just OC'd to 3.3 from 2.4 (3.3 = what I got my 5600+ to) so im quite satisfied with this for now.

@OP

If you insist on upgrading, I suggest you go the whole way, or not at all. Dont go with an e2xxx as some suggest because you wont gain anything. Go with a e8400/q6600 or dont move

For gaming, you might actually consider the q6600, as while the game takes what it needs from the cpu, the other 3 cores can run the OS in the background, resulting, in faster game > OS commands which WILL result in higher fps over a dualcore. I went e8400 because of the higher clock speeds, 1333fsb, and in the end its basically got the same power if you can OC it decently.
No problems at all . I don't mind my theories being put to the test! However one thing to take note of here...what resolution are YOU running? At a lower resolution (1440x900, 1280x1024 or lower) then the CPU will matter more. However at higher resolutions than that.....the CPU will become less dependant and your gameplay will start to rely more on the GPU(s) in your system.

And yes I'd have to agree with you . If you're to upgrade (from a GOOD 939 or AM2 system) its either ALL THE WAY, or not at all. I'm talking e8400/Q6600, 4870 / GTX 280, 4GB+ RAM. In my opinion its a waste of money unless you KNOW you'll have the funds soon to finish it off. I just personally hold the belief that there's no reason to spend money when its not quite needed yet. Some around here LOVE to have the best of the best. And there's nothing wrong with that at all...and I can support that. I'd do the same if I could afford it. But on a budget...if your computer does you well....why spend money on it for very little benefit.
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Quote:
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Well pio I will be putting that theory to the test

I just sold my sig rig, and put the proceeds toward an e8400 which should be shipped out any time. Will be able to compare the two and end this debate once and for all

I upgraded from my amd rig, MOSTLY due to limited OC ability, and that I wanted to go 45nm. Right now my backup rig is an e6600, which I just OC'd to 3.3 from 2.4 (3.3 = what I got my 5600+ to) so im quite satisfied with this for now.

@OP

If you insist on upgrading, I suggest you go the whole way, or not at all. Dont go with an e2xxx as some suggest because you wont gain anything. Go with a e8400/q6600 or dont move

For gaming, you might actually consider the q6600, as while the game takes what it needs from the cpu, the other 3 cores can run the OS in the background, resulting, in faster game > OS commands which WILL result in higher fps over a dualcore. I went e8400 because of the higher clock speeds, 1333fsb, and in the end its basically got the same power if you can OC it decently.
The thing is that higher clock CPU will give you higher MAX FPS but you will have same MIN FPS because GPU is the one that bounces up and down.
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