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Hello everyone,

I'm having a problem with 0902 BIOS. I get the following errors on boot:

Quote:
BIOS update recommended.
To unleash this CPU´s full power, please perform Bios update process
CPU Over Temperature Error!
The errors are completely false - the CPU is NOT overheating and it IS supported by the 0902 BIOS version (I have an E8600). All other BIOSes I tried (0410, 0803) work fine without any errors. I use EZ Flash for flashing - no errors during the process. I tried reflashing 0902 a few times and there was only a single flash when I didn't get the errors on startup - all other 0902 flashes did display the errors. So it seems there's some randomness here. I have no idea why 0902 is a problem with my system while there are absolutely no problems with other BIOS versions and the system itself works fine in the OS environment. All the settings are default, too. What could be causing this?
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Proud X48 Rapage Formula owner right here! But I have one question. Exactly what does the Strap to NB setting do?
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Ree View Post
Hello everyone,

I'm having a problem with 0902 BIOS. I get the following errors on boot:



The errors are completely false - the CPU is NOT overheating and it IS supported by the 0902 BIOS version (I have an E8600). All other BIOSes I tried (0410, 0803) work fine without any errors. I use EZ Flash for flashing - no errors during the process. I tried reflashing 0902 a few times and there was only a single flash when I didn't get the errors on startup - all other 0902 flashes did display the errors. So it seems there's some randomness here. I have no idea why 0902 is a problem with my system while there are absolutely no problems with other BIOS versions and the system itself works fine in the OS environment. All the settings are default, too. What could be causing this?
I personally would go back to the 0803 bios. it is more stable and is easier with ram then the 0902. So if you can, i recommend flashing back. And just a quick question, are you flashing the bios with the computer OCed? Make sure you restore the bios to default settings before flashing the bios.

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Originally Posted by Aznboy1993 View Post
Proud X48 Rapage Formula owner right here! But I have one question. Exactly what does the Strap to NB setting do?
Check out this Rampage Formula article at Anandtech:
ASUS ROG Rampage Formula: Why we were wrong about the Intel X48
Pages 3-9 of the article will prove to very useful to you about specific bios settings, chipset strap, relationship between the NB and memory, as well as memory timings (both primary and sub).
Edited by ericeod - 11/14/09 at 4:38pm
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Hi everybody. I'm new to the X48 platform and need some help pushing from 3.6 to 4 ghz

A bit of my background:

(Former) board in main system evga 780i/780i FTW. Went thru every possible combination of failures with that p.o.s (from DOA to ethernet failure to video corruption, you name it), 7 replacements total over 1.5 years! I finally gave in to the myriad of problems with the nvidia 780i chipset (they have no business making motherboards) , bit the bullet, got rid of my 2 8800 GTs and bought this fine board at the egg just before it went OOS.

Standby system: e8400 0.c to 4 ghz in a ga g31m es2l, 4 gb ddr2 1066 reapers, running raid 0 on a 300 w psu in a SFF case I like to think of as an oversized laptop

With that introduction, onto my problem:

I have pushed this fine specimen to 400 fsb on a Q9650/8gb ddr2 800, 1:1 and 5-4-4-15 2T, with just slight bump in board voltages, cpu core at 1.325v. Rock satable. My problem is I can't go any further. No matter what I try. The board will just not boot up at 1800 fsb, and the lcd readout stops at the checking memory stage. These are the o.c parameters I have tried. I have 8 gb of the nvidia sli ready memory running at ddr2 800, have also tried a 4 gb kit of the 1066 reapers, but even those will not o.c to 1066, but will only underclock at 800.

For 1800 fsb/4.05 ghz

CPU 1.3625v
PLL 1.56v
NB 1.41v (gone upto 1.51)
FSB Term 1.30v
S.B 1.125v
S.B 1.5v 1.50 to 1.55v
CPU GTLVref 0.65
NB GTLVref 0.67
DRAM Static Read control - Disabled
AI Clock Twister - tried everything upto Strong
AI Transaction Booster - Manual
Loadline - Disabled
CPU clock Skew Normal and 100ps
NB Clock Skew - Normal and 100ps
Ram (Strap 333 and 400)

I am running 8 gb of the nvidia SLI ready series (ddr2 800 5-4-4-15). I know they are stable to 900 mhz, because I had reached 1800 fsb on the 780i platform running 1:1. It seems like this board just does not like to overclock OCZ memory, or maybe the 0902 bios is pretty stringent in terms of memory?

I see some sig/s running a Q9650 at 1.325v and boy am I jealous!


Update:

I changed:
AI Clock Twister to Auto
AI Transaction Booster to Auto


Running at 1800 fsb with cpu at 1.3625v. I'll need to dial it in now, take me a week, 10 days. How are my board voltages tho? The bios shows all voltages in green. Am I safe?
Edited by c0re2 - 11/18/09 at 3:58pm
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Well, that excitement was short lived. While I was able to run at 4.05 ghz, and in fact do a complete 1.5 TB system backup over 20 hours without hanging (something my 780i could not do even when prime stable at 4 ghz), the system would hang within a few seconds of starting prime95 x64.

Maybe I just got a board that doesn't overclock very well. I guess I'll have be content with 400 fsb then. Oh Well....
Edited by c0re2 - 11/19/09 at 3:29pm
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Well, that excitement was short lived. While I was able to run at 4.05 ghz, and in fact do a complete 1.5 TB system backup over 20 hours without hanging (something my 780i could not do even when prime stable at 4 ghz), the system would hang within a few seconds of starting prime95 x64.

Maybe I just got a board that doesn't overclock very well. I guess I'll have be content with 400 fsb then. Oh Well....

Hi and welcome to OCN

Running a Q9650 @ 450 4,05GHz shouldn´t be any problem with the Rampage Formula, so yes it might be your ram but first try a few things like,

NB - Might need more then 1,51
FSB Term - Might need more then 1.30v, try up to 1,45
AI Clock Twister - auto
AI Transaction Booster - Manual
Common Performance Level - 10 or higher
CPU clock Skew - Delay 100ps
NB Clock Skew - Normal

Try also with only 2x2, because 4x2 together with a quad put a lot of strain on the subsystem (read bus and NB), higher volt for the FSB Term and NB is probably needed, also consider that lower "Common Performance Level" needs higher NB voltage to make it run stable.

You might consider to run Memtest86+ with 4x2 to see if it´s okey with the above suggestion.
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Hello to everybody with rampage formula's.

I know that i don't technically have a rampage formula (the P5E deluxe is very similar though) i really want to be able to tweak my OC a bit more to lower the the volts a bit more. As i have the exact BIOS is there some sort of guide for a E8400/500/600 overclocking/fine tuning on it? I'm getting annoyed by australia's increased temps are getting very annoying as its getting up to 45c at idle (35c ambient) and it may degrade the chip over time. Thanks for anybody's help and i hope to help you in the future
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Hi and welcome to OCN

Running a Q9650 @ 450 4,05GHz shouldn´t be any problem with the Rampage Formula, so yes it might be your ram but first try a few things like,

NB - Might need more then 1,51
FSB Term - Might need more then 1.30v, try up to 1,45
AI Clock Twister - auto
AI Transaction Booster - Manual
Common Performance Level - 10 or higher
CPU clock Skew - Delay 100ps
NB Clock Skew - Normal

Try also with only 2x2, because 4x2 together with a quad put a lot of strain on the subsystem (read bus and NB), higher volt for the FSB Term and NB is probably needed, also consider that lower "Common Performance Level" needs higher NB voltage to make it run stable.

You might consider to run Memtest86+ with 4x2 to see if it´s okey with the above suggestion.
Hi Ghostleader,

Thank you for the welcome and the advice. I tried those voltages and skews. In fact went upto 1.65v for the NB, 1.55 for the FSB Term. CPU at 1.3625v (safe max). I also went back to my OCZ 1066 reaper 2x2gb running at 900 (1:1), but the system still froze with seconds of starting prime95! Also, my NB temp was 50C idle at 1.65v! Maybe I just got a bad board with a low fsb wall?

I have run memtest with my 4x2 on my 780i at 900, no errors for 24 hrs+. Will try on this board as well.
Edited by c0re2 - 11/20/09 at 8:33pm
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@jackeyjoe

So summer is on down there, tough to cool that E8400 at 35C ambient, I got the winter knocking on the door up here in the north.

Here´s a good starting point for bus 500 4,0GHz, some volt values may have to be alter to suite your system, for example, vcore, as the screenies show a E8600.

If you run bios 0802, 0803 or 0902 you have the CPU and NB Clock Skew option, set them to:
CPU Clock Skew - Delay 100ps
NB Clock Skew - Normal

500 8 4000 1000 555 15 Strong tRD9

Good luck





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@c0re2

It can be possible that the RF don´t like your SLI ready OCZ ram but it should work with your Reaper.

Which bios version do you run?

Heard that some ram don´t like 0902, if so, you can try 0802 or 0803.


You can also try to run HCI Design Memtest to check if your ram is stable, with 8Gb ram, run 8 instances with ~800mb each, with 4Gb ram, run 4 instances ~800mb each, see example below.

Edit: run memtest for at least 500% before consider it somewhat stable, 1000% is even better.


Which Twister and what level of Performance Level (PL) did you have when it froze?

Try Twister moderate and PL 11 or 12.


You might need to raise vcore even higher then 1,3625 with Loadline Calibration (LLC) disabled, because during load it might drop to 1,25 and you might need between 1,285 - 1,30 during load to be stable @ 4,05GHz.




Edited by Ghostleader - 11/21/09 at 3:16am
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