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Originally Posted by The Hundred Gunner View Post
You can share files easily among OSX, Linux, UNIX, windows...

This has been around for a while with the help of Samba.



Wait, do you mean pirating/"casually sharing" programs? I don't exactly depend on sharing software with my friends to get it. In fact, all of my software is free, so pirating isn't an issue for me at least...
I was talking about 1993... you can share files across platforms very easily nowadays. But back then, if you created a spreadsheet on an Apple, good luck importing it onto your Windows PC. Since there were more PC's than Apple's, you had this snowball effect of everybody migrating to Windows. The only competition for Windows was OS/2, which IBM stopped developing.

Games played a huge role as well... most games were written for Windows PC's. But nowadays, the really successful games are written for both Mac and PC.

My main point was this: the issues that helped Windows become a monopoly don't exist today. And unless Microsoft can bring more "exclusives" to Windows, it will be difficult for them to maintain their market share.
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There is more chance of us destroying planet earth and going to war
than MS losing their grip on the world with what OS is primarily used!

Theres only one winner in this race and the finish line is in site!
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Even though I run windows, I want another OS to succeed. It's better for everyone if Microsoft gets some competition. Microsoft's share should drop to 75% or less and another OS, don't care which one, needs to get at least 20%. Best thing to have is for their share to drop below 50%.
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Dude, seriously, did you make an account here just to promote Apple? Or do you just not play games on the PC? The number of PC games created in is the tens of thousands, not the ~300 list you posted.
Who cares about the tens of thousands of crap games made for Windows... Did you create an account here just to crap on Apple?

I have an old Indigo iMac, and my PC.. Guess which one I use more? Im just tired of all the crap being thrown around about Apple by people who dont know about Apple's.

http://guide.apple.com/action.lasso?...rds=10&-search

First page.. Records 1-10 of 1636 records found.

Now let me cherry pick some games off the pages that are games for Mac's..

Age of Empires III/Warchiefs
Battlefield 2142
Call of Duty 4 (Q3 2008)
Command and Conquer 3
Diablo II/LoD
Doom3
Prey
Quake 4
Quake Wars
The Sim Games.
Starcraft/Broodwar
Warcraft 3/expansions
World of Warcraft/Burning Crusade

Seems like alot of the games people play on PC's nowadays.
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[QUOTE=The Hundred Gunner;4129558]That figure is not correct. The reality is that they cost around $100-200 more, if any at all (in some cases, they are even cheaper than PCs). We're not talking about custom builds, of course, just make note of that. And after factoring that apple computers don't come preloaded with adware and junk but instead come with a media suite (iLife) and even an IDE (Integrated Developing Environment, Xcode is the name of it), the price gap closes in quite a bit.

That aside, some people simply prefer the OS. Personally speaking, I find desktop work much easier to do on a Mac. The environment gives me access to everything I need the way I want it to. You probably don't understand; I'd need you to sit with me to show you exactly what I mean. Gaming aside, I prefer this OS.

You asked to understand why someone would buy a Mac... Hopefully I helped.
QUOTE]


I admit, I may have used hyperbole to try to make my point. I understand what you mean about customizability, but honestly, I can do that with windows. Overall, I don't think the public truly knows much about Apple computers because they think all computers are the same and don't bother to look into them more. I also think that because Windows has such a large install base with business that they like to stick with one system for the comfort factor.
Edited by zooterboy - 7/3/08 at 10:51am
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The survey lists Apple’s Mac OS X operating system market share in June with a record 7.94%, which is a 0.11 point increase over the previous month. This figure makes OS X the best-selling UNIX variant ever with the largest overall share of the market. Linux currently stands at 0.80% market share in this survey, a slight improvement over the 0.68% recorded last month. Windows machines still dominate the market and came in at 90.89%, down from 91.13 percent in the month ago. Although the lead of Windows remains unquestioned, its share has been dropping slowly but steadily over the past two years.
Funny the article suggests that OSX has made a large .11 point gain in market share, while Linux only "slightly improved" from .68 to .80, which happens to be a .12 point gain, larger than OSX's in terms of absolute gain and percentage gain.

Windows could be increasing its user base for all we know, just not as fast as other OS's... that is of course if this data is reliable.

Apple will never have significant market share for their OS until they release it for non Mac hardware, which of course would never happen.
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Originally Posted by pauldovi View Post
Funny the article suggests that OSX has made a large .11 point gain in market share, while Linux only "slightly improved" from .68 to .80, which happens to be a .12 point gain, larger than OSX's in terms of absolute gain and percentage gain.

Windows could be increasing its user base for all we know, just not as fast as other OS's... that is of course if this data is reliable.

Apple will never have significant market share for their OS until they release it for non Mac hardware, which of course would never happen.
Awesome point. Nice post
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That figure is not correct. The reality is that they cost around $100-200 more, if any at all (in some cases, they are even cheaper than PCs). We're not talking about custom builds, of course, just make note of that. And after factoring that apple computers don't come preloaded with adware and junk but instead come with a media suite (iLife) and even an IDE (Integrated Developing Environment, Xcode is the name of it), the price gap closes in quite a bit.

That aside, some people simply prefer the OS. Personally speaking, I find desktop work much easier to do on a Mac. The environment gives me access to everything I need the way I want it to. You probably don't understand; I'd need you to sit with me to show you exactly what I mean. Gaming aside, I prefer this OS.

You asked to understand why someone would buy a Mac... Hopefully I helped.



It makes perfect sense. Just because a product doesn't suit you doesn't mean it's the worst thing in the world. You don't have to hate it just because it doesn't tickle your pickle.
You make a big fallacy. Perhaps you are correct that Mac hardware is fairly close to PC hardware ($200 is big $$ though), but that is at the same high end hardware as Mac.

What about the cheap sup $400 stuff that sells so much?

The cheapest Mac computer is the Mac mini, which comes with a 1.83Ghz Core 2 Duo, 80GB HDD, 1GB of ram, DVD-ROM, and Intel GMA950. All for $599

Compared to a Dell?

Inspiron 530 comes with a 2Ghz Core 2 Duo, 1GB of ram, 250GB hardware, Intel X3100, DVD-RW. and Vista Home Premium... Which happens to be better than the Mac Book for only $389. This also comes with a keyboard and mouse, something the Mac doesn't include.

So at the lowest end, the Dell is 35% cheaper!!!! And it comes with 3 times the hard drive storage, faster processor, DVD Burner, and a keyboard mouse.

So what can you get from Dell for $599?:

For $599 you can get a 2.4Ghz Core 2 Duo, 1GB Ram, 250GB HDD, DVD Burner, X3100 graphics, Wireless G card, 19" LCD, keyboard and mouse, and Vista Home Premium.

Looks like at the low end, Dell is a MUCH better deal than Mac.


Okay, what about the next range? Mac doesn't really offer much between $800 and $1200, so I guess Dell is an automatic for the sub $1000 range (read majority of market). But what about the $1200 iMac, which gets you:

20" LCD
2.4Ghz Core 2 Duo
1GB Ram
250GB HDD
DVD Burner
ATI HD 2400XT 128MB

From Dell what can you get?:

20" LCD
3Ghz Core 2 Duo
1GB Ram
250GB HDD
DVD Burner
ATI HD 2400XT 256MB
Vista Home Premium

All this for only $829... which happens to be 31% cheaper than the Mac!

So what can you get from Dell for $1200?

3Ghz Core 2 Duo
20" LCD
3GB Ram
320GB HDD
DVD Burner
HD3650 256GB
Keyboard / Mouse
Windows Vista Home Premium

Wow Dell wins again!

In each case Dell gets you considerably more for less.
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That's why Valve is programming for Linux now.
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You make a big fallacy. Perhaps you are correct that Mac hardware is fairly close to PC hardware ($200 is big $$ though), but that is at the same high end hardware as Mac.

What about the cheap sup $400 stuff that sells so much?

The cheapest Mac computer is the Mac mini, which comes with a 1.83Ghz Core 2 Duo, 80GB HDD, 1GB of ram, DVD-ROM, and Intel GMA950. All for $599

Compared to a Dell?

Inspiron 530 comes with a 2Ghz Core 2 Duo, 1GB of ram, 250GB hardware, Intel X3100, DVD-RW. and Vista Home Premium... Which happens to be better than the Mac Book for only $389. This also comes with a keyboard and mouse, something the Mac doesn't include.

So at the lowest end, the Dell is 35% cheaper!!!! And it comes with 3 times the hard drive storage, faster processor, DVD Burner, and a keyboard mouse.

So what can you get from Dell for $599?:

For $599 you can get a 2.4Ghz Core 2 Duo, 1GB Ram, 250GB HDD, DVD Burner, X3100 graphics, Wireless G card, 19" LCD, keyboard and mouse, and Vista Home Premium.

Looks like at the low end, Dell is a MUCH better deal than Mac.


Okay, what about the next range? Mac doesn't really offer much between $800 and $1200, so I guess Dell is an automatic for the sub $1000 range (read majority of market). But what about the $1200 iMac, which gets you:

20" LCD
2.4Ghz Core 2 Duo
1GB Ram
250GB HDD
DVD Burner
ATI HD 2400XT 128MB

From Dell what can you get?:

20" LCD
3Ghz Core 2 Duo
1GB Ram
250GB HDD
DVD Burner
ATI HD 2400XT 256MB
Vista Home Premium

All this for only $829... which happens to be 31% cheaper than the Mac!

So what can you get from Dell for $1200?

3Ghz Core 2 Duo
20" LCD
3GB Ram
320GB HDD
DVD Burner
HD3650 256GB
Keyboard / Mouse
Windows Vista Home Premium

Wow Dell wins again!

In each case Dell gets you considerably more for less.
Do workstations. Wait, ill be nice enough to do it for you ..

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Starting Price $4,542

Instant Savings $544


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Subtotal $3,448.00

In this case, Apple wins, making it a better buy for workstations.
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