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Yeap, our little corner is just that. A LITTLE corner, microscopic on the scheme of things. I'd bet my life that theres life out there aside from us - and I'm being serious.

I'm confident that within this century "man" will indeed build a spacecraft capable of travel within our own starsystem. Artificial gravity is in deed posable and in it's infancy as we know how to create it.

Heck "cloaking" tech, energy shields and energy weapons are also possable and have been done, granted it's in it's EXTREME infancy and far from practical now, but it has been accomplished on some scale. Scientists have also "beamed" atoms across a small distance as well. All this is possable and will happen in time. How much time is anyones guess. Heck think of the micro processor. Started out some 60 years ago and look at it now. We've progressed so far in the 20th century its astounding. Never before has human kind progressed so quickly as we had in the 20th century.

Granted it will probably be 60+ years before we break the speed of light, but I bet you anything it will happen one way or another. There are many thoughts as how to acomplish this, like folding space and time, or normal propulsion.

All this stuff seems mind boggling now but if you think about it, if man kind continues to progress as rapidly as we have this stuff isn't too fare off. I'd say we'll see more practicle versions of some of what I mentioned by the end of this gernations life time.

Artificial gravity huh? Do you know that physicists are still trying to explain the phenomenon that is gravity. How do you suppose they are going to make artificial gravity? Artificial gravity is something for the sifi movies, not reality.

We will never break the speed of light, nothing can. I don't care what some of these backwards experiments tell you. c is a definition and a limitation of communication. It will never be broken.
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Originally Posted by Valllldondo View Post
light & radio waves travel at 299,792.5 kps
at that speed....about 14-15 hours...and getting longer

Cool
Edited by pauldovi - 7/3/08 at 11:01am
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"In late breaking news, it appears that the voyager 2 has been oced to 6ghz!"
Since the probe is sooo far away from the sun, I'd imagine that the temps must be very very cold. At those interstellar temps, it must be like getting free cascade cooling!
    
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Since the probe is sooo far away from the sun, I'd imagine that the temps must be very very cold. At those interstellar temps, it must be like getting free cascade cooling!
It may be very cold (read low average kinetic energy), but there is no mass to transfer heat to, so in effect the voyager 2 has a big cooling problem.
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Since the probe is sooo far away from the sun, I'd imagine that the temps must be very very cold. At those interstellar temps, it must be like getting free cascade cooling!
Completely the opposite, from the article:
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Voyager 1's plasma detector failed after it passed Saturn, so Voyager 2 provided the first glimpse of what happens to the solar wind's energy as it slams into interstellar space. The solar wind travels outwards from the sun at supersonic speeds, and at temperatures near 17,540 degrees Fahrenheit (10,000 degrees Kelvin).
Scientists had predicted that the solar wind would simultaneously slow down and heat up to a temperature near 1.8 million degrees F (1 million degrees Kelvin), but instead found that it reached just 180,000 degrees F (100,000 degrees Kelvin) at the solar system boundary.
But, in a similar argument to pauldovi's there is so little mass to transfer heat by conduction that it makes little to no impact on the spacecraft. It must loose all its heat by radiation.
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Artificial gravity huh? Do you know that physicists are still trying to explain the phenomenon that is gravity. How do you suppose they are going to make artificial gravity? Artificial gravity is something for the sifi movies, not reality.
Higgs Boson!
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Artificial gravity huh? Do you know that physicists are still trying to explain the phenomenon that is gravity. How do you suppose they are going to make artificial gravity? Artificial gravity is something for the sifi movies, not reality.

We will never break the speed of light, nothing can. I don't care what some of these backwards experiments tell you. c is a definition and a limitation of communication. It will never be broken.
Ofcourse breaking the light barrier is possable. Hell people said the exact same thing about the sound barrier. The point is anything is possable with the correct knowlege. Astrophysics is in it's infancy. We know next to nothing about it.

As for artificial gravity:

http://mvl.mit.edu/AG/overview.html

And Wikipedia also has an article on it. A lot of it comes from Cornell from a professor I know there.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Artificial_gravity

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Artificial gravity is possable. What is impossable for us as of now is to actually do it on a practicle level outside a test room.

We also have a very good handle on gravity when it comes to Earth's gravity. We understand the forces at work that produce it, atleast for the most part.

To say that we have no understanding of Gravity is just plain ignorant.
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Ofcourse breaking the light barrier is possable. Hell people said the exact same thing about the sound barrier. The point is anything is possable with the correct knowlege. Astrophysics is in it's infancy. We know next to nothing about it.

As for artificial gravity:

http://mvl.mit.edu/AG/overview.html

And Wikipedia also has an article on it. A lot of it comes from Cornell from a professor I know there.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Artificial_gravity

---

Artificial gravity is possable. What is impossable for us as of now is to actually do it on a practicle level outside a test room.

We also have a very good handle on gravity when it comes to Earth's gravity. We understand the forces at work that produce it, atleast for the most part.

To say that we have no understanding of Gravity is just plain ignorant.
Give me a reference to who said it was a physical impossibility to break the speed of sound.

Physics and science now are a little different then they were 50 years ago. 50 years ago you would discover something or perhaps make an invention, and then try to create a scientific model the explained what you had just found.

Now we use math to explain physics, and then use experiments to prove them. The actual invention comes after the theory, which is a big difference from just 50 years ago.

The speed of light is a limitation that cannot be broken with technology. All natural forms of communication, including electromagnetic waves, gravity, and forces are limited by the speed of light.

gamma, the relationship between relativistic values shows us why traveling at the speed of light is impossible, it results in a vertical asymptote at the speed of light:

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I thought they had built the U.S.S. Voyager, poo
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Give me a reference to who said it was a physical impossibility to break the speed of sound.

Physics and science now are a little different then they were 50 years ago. 50 years ago you would discover something or perhaps make an invention, and then try to create a scientific model the explained what you had just found.

Now we use math to explain physics, and then use experiments to prove them. The actual invention comes after the theory, which is a big difference from just 50 years ago.

The speed of light is a limitation that cannot be broken with technology. All natural forms of communication, including electromagnetic waves, gravity, and forces are limited by the speed of light.

gamma, the relationship between relativistic values shows us why traveling at the speed of light is impossible, it results in a vertical asymptote at the speed of light:

As of now yes. Tomorrow? Who knows. That is my point. Nothing is impossable. Todays understanding or todays technology sees it as being impossable. Who's to say tomorrow someone won't invent a new math, or have a brainstorm much like Einstien did.

Right now humans say that breaking the light barrier is impossable, and with todays knowlege it is. But who's to say that in 50 or hell even 150 years it wont be possable. That's entirely what I am getting at. Human beings are constantly evolving. If you look at where we were 100 years ago to today you'd think we were ignorant little people who knew next to nothing.

Anyone that says point blank "oh that will never happen" is an ignorant fool.
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