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Here are the specifications of the PC I am in the process of building:

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CPU: Intel Pentium Dual Core E2180 2GHz
FAN: Arctic Cooling Freezer 7 Pro
MOBO: Gigabyte GA-P35-D3SL (Rev 2.0)
RAM: Corsair XMS2 Xtreme Performance TwinX Matched 4GB (2 x 2GB)
GPU: PNY Verto GeForce 6200 256MB (PCI) <Temporary, until I can afford 8800GT>
HDD: Maxtor DiamondMax 21 160GB 7200rpm SATA II
ROM: Sony NEC Optiarc AD-7200S 20x DVD±RW/DL/RAM SATA
PSU: CoolerMaster eXtreme Power 460W
CASE: CoolerMaster Black Elite 330 with Side Window
This is my first proper PC build, and I was advised to buy this processor with a good cooler, as this is a good CPU for overclocking. Unfortunately, I have very little knowledge with regards to overclocking. I only know it has something to do with the FSB and multipliers, and altering values in the BIOS.

If someone could help me get started and give me some good beginners advice, I would really appreciate it.

Thanks!
post #2 of 13
Just make sure you know how to reset the CMOS just in case of a situation where you get no POST output. Also, make sure that you get some Artic Silver 5 to go along with that heatsink and fan, it will help a lot.

I am not sure if that case would be sufficient if it doesn't have any intake fans. I would suggest getting only 2GB of ram and getting a better case. 4GB of ram isn't really necessary at this point in time. I would get two 1GB sticks then get two more later if you need it. I have NEVER used all of my RAM to where Windows had to start swapping like crazy. On Windows XP, I am only using 313MB of ram while typing this and running Steam. No matter how good your heatsink and fan is, it won't compensate for a case that doesn't supply enough air.
Edited by evazive - 7/3/08 at 5:23am
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Well, I've already fitted the RAM, and I don't really want to have to return it. I haven't got the case or PSU yet, should arrive sometime next week, so I still have some time to get some case fans. Which ones should I get? http://www.ebuyer.co.uk

I've read the stickies, but I'm still incredibly confused on what settings to change etc. How do I start and stuff? What software would I need installed on the PC? I've heard about CPU-Z, and something called a Torture Test...

I'm going to be running Vista Ultimate 64 Bit, so the 4GBs of RAM really helps on that part...
post #4 of 13
Some essential programs:

CPU-z
Prime95
CoreTemp

Prime95 is the Torture Test and CoreTemp tells you the temperature of each core of your processor.

The frequency of the cores is determined by FSB and the CPU Multiplier. You can increase both.
FSB * Multi = Freq

Any case fans would be fine, just make sure that you check the temperatures before overclocking, idle and load, using CoreTemp. To get the load temperature run Prime95.
Edited by evazive - 7/3/08 at 5:33am
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1. What is the fastest speed I could overclock to, without having to change voltages etc?
2. What do I change first, I'm still a little confused on what I need to do...
post #6 of 13
1. I can't tell you, you need to find out with trial and error.
2. Slowly up the FSB by 5MHz and reboot and run Torture Tests with Prime95 while watching temperatures. If the temperature gets too high, probably about 55-60C for that processor, then you need to stop there, which won't happen for a while. If you get a hardware failure in Prime95, you need to up the voltage. Just up the vcore / cpu voltage 0.25 volts (usually about two up in the menu) until you don't get any failures.
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Most people can get those to around 2.8 pretty easily. That's a great board, and that cooler is probably sufficient for a slower dual, so you might get 3.0 if you're willing to put some voltage through it. (don't be scared of a little voltage. Just don't use as much as me )

Stock voltage? who wants stock?
A few guys have hit 3.0 on stock volts with that chip. Some need as much as 1.41 or so for 3.0GHZ; how far you can go on stock volts really depends on your chip. If you have one of the good ones, who knows how far you can get it with some voltage? Even I am jealous of that x10 multi

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post #8 of 13
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I don't really understand why you have to increase voltages etc. Is it very dangerous? 3Ghz seems very risky, I would be content with 2.5Ghz-2.8Ghz since it's dual-core.

Also, it sounds too simple. So all I need to alter is this FSB value and the voltage?
post #9 of 13
An overclocked processor needs more power, it needs to work faster. Just like you need food to work. It is not dangerous to overclock to 3GHz and increasing voltages will do nothing bad. Just don't skip crazily. For example, if you are running vcore at 1.3v and you up the FSB 10MHz, don't change the vcore to 1.4v, that would be stupid. Just slowly up the voltage until it is stable, and you will be fine, I promise. Just take your time and do plenty of tests.
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Will overclocking make a noticeable increase in performance?
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