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Hi everyone.
As title says i don't know a thing about overclock but i want to make me pc faster so i'd like to overclock everything that i can.
currently my pc is a :

Box Aerocool Aeroengine II Black
Font LC Power 550W
Motherboard Asus SktAM2 - M2n-SLI Deluxe nForce570
Prossessor AMD Athlon64 X2 Dual Core SktAM2 3800+
Pack 2x 1024Mb ddr2 Kingston PC2-5400 (667) Dual Channel
XFX GeForce PCI-E 7600GS 256Mb DDR2 Extreme; HDTV/2xDVI

and some other devices that doesn't matter.

well, from what i've read on some forums, to make an overclock i need to keep the components freezed. i dont have any extra cooler on it. just 2 air coolers on Font 1 on prossessor and 1 extra on the box. my GeForce only have some kind of resistence but dont even even an air cooler on it. on the box i have 2 extra slots for 2 air coolers and the question is if it is enuf to keep the components safe or if i need more than that or if i dont really need more coolers than what i have!?

the second question is what i can overclock?
prossessor and graphic card only?(its the most important thing indeed)
Is it safe to overclock an AMD?

i heard there are 2 ways to overclock, 1 by software other by BIOS.
in any one of that cases, if i format my hard disk, will i lose the overclock settings?
What is the most eficient way of overclock?

What advivces you can give me about cooling?

My dual core seams a little dumb, since 1 core do all the work and the other one is like "sleeping" so is there any tool to make it faster? drivers or something?
as for my graphic card too.
i have the latest drivers on it but i heard there are some drivers that increase the performance on games.
any tools that can improve any of my components are wellcome.

for now i thing its all.
thanks in advance for any answer.
post #2 of 7
You've got a lot of questions that can easily be answered by reading durch's post regarding the overclocking an AMD system.

"Offical" Overclocking Guide - AMD Socket AM2

Don't skimp through that post, read the whole thing and ask questions about the parts that you don't understand. Overclocking your system incorrectly can leave you with damaged components.

To answer a couple of your questions:

Cooling is an important factor with overclocking. The general rule is to keep the CPU under 55 degrees Celsius. If your cooler is stock, you may need to invest in an aftermarket cooler in order to maximize your overclocking. I have found in my particular case that I could easily gain another 1-200 MHz if I had a better cooler, or possibly even computer case with better cooling.

AMD's are safe to overclock, and historically, AMD has been pro-overclocking (take a look at the black edition CPU's, for example). You can overclock your CPU, RAM, Chipset, Video Card, easily through a combination of BIOS settings and Software. Again, heat is the big factor here. Watch your temperatures.

Formatting your hard drive will not erase the overclock settings in the BIOS on the mainboard (which generally will store your CPU/RAM/Chipset overclock settings). If you use RivaTuner or similar software to overclock your Video card, those settings will be lost.

As far as tools to use, the tools that durch lists in his guide should be all that you need to get a good read on your hardware. The only other tool that I will suggest is to make sure you have temperature monitors installed so that you can identify if your settings are generating too much heat.

This is all information from an overclock newbie, so try and take in as much info as you can from other posts, and read and re-read durch's post until you understand what is being said there. I cannot stress that enough.

Also, please take some time in the User CP on the website to add in your system information.
Edited by MegaTherion - 7/3/08 at 10:59am
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post #3 of 7
First off, welcome to OCN, its a great place (as you can see).

Deffinately check out the guides, they'll get you up to speed, and then when it comes time to ask questions about what to do next, you'll know the lingo and some of how everything works.

To answer a few more of your questions...

You can overclock your CPU, GPU, and ram, and through that, pretty much everything else in your system. But those are the ones that you really have direct control over.

You're right, there are to ways to overclock (software and BIOS), but doing it through the BIOS is so vastly supperior (easier, less hassle and less problems) that its very, very strongly recommended that you do it that way. (software overclocking often leads to corrupted files/ maybe even the operating system, as well as the fact that you usually need to re-set everything each time the computer is restarted.)

Like MegaTherion said, cooling is a big part of overclocking, but dont feel like you need to run out and spend alot on cooler just yet. You can usually help your temps a fair amount by using some good cable management in your case (getting the cables out of the way for better airflow), along with more case fans. If i understand you right, you have 3 case fans, with spots for 2 more. If i was going to add more fans to your case, I'd add an exhaust or two to the rear.

Hopefully that helps some. Let us know how everything goes
post #4 of 7
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ty for the tips. i've started to read the guide and im already stuck. i cant get my ram voltage. i have no idea if its 1.8 or 2.1. i've checked the website of it but it only says the price of it. any idea?
post #5 of 7
I am willing to bet it's 1.8 because it's only 667.

:EDIT:
I looked on Kingston's site and it said that the 667 RAM is rated at 1.8v
Edited by se7en56 - 7/3/08 at 2:00pm
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post #6 of 7
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Thanks. People on this forum are fast anyways sorry about my English... it's really bad
i'm waiting for some "fans" to come by mail. they should come next week. in the meantime i will study the guide a little more.
one last question
i've checked the temperature of my CPU and it varies between 30 and 35*C...
is that good for a non overclocked pc?
well ty for all answers. i will post a little more noob questions next week for sure and congratz for the forum. very fast and nice. keep the good work XD
post #7 of 7
This forum is the best I've ever seen... and it is the way it is because of the people that come here. We get a chance to help eachother out.

Those temps look about normal for that processor, depending on the "ambient" air (the temperature inside your room) temperature. They Might be on the high side if the computer is at idle, but i'd be willing to say that might be because of your case cooling (which you're already fixing) so things are looking just about right.
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